Ufo – The Truth About UFOs, Aliens, Real Videos and Images

Ufo – The Truth About UFOs, Aliens, Real Videos and Images


Ufo – The Truth About UFOs, Aliens, Real Videos and Images, That is the Secret KGB UFO Information, The Russian Crash of 1969. Its actual, 100% and I can discover no flaws in it. Its an previous movie purchased on the blackmarket for 10Okay US and a few how leaked to the general public. I see why. The video reveals each an alien craft, and a blueish inexperienced alien physique that was recovered. This is sufficient to trigger panic throughout the planet if the information ever received maintain of it. You ask, are aliens actual? However its most likely the identical questions they ask about us. I can vouch for this proof at being actual. You could have my phrase on it.

This results in one other factor…the persevering with of the Apollo missions…covertly. NASA pretended to finish the missions after Apollo 17, however they continued previous 20. Russia was a part of it. The NASA image has each flags in a cooperation displayed within the Apollo 20 movies. Apollo 20 occurred about 1974-1975. Simply 4-5 years after the UFO crash in the us.

I bear in mind speaking to Willam Rutledge (astronaut on Apollo 20) on Youtube messages, and he stated there was a cigar UFO and a triangle UFO in Deporte crater on our moon. They explored each. I had doubts, however I used to be the primary particular person to ever discover the ship in Deporte crater and report it to the general public. William was very excited and didn’t count on such a photograph existed, however he preferred it once I informed him about it. He will need to have been about 77 after we spoke, however…will not be with us anymore and stopped speaking to anybody after his Youtube account was hacked by the US authorities.
Scott C. Waring

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The small print of a Russian Crash on or about 1969 are sketchy and considerably suspect. This case comes from the so-called “Secret KGB Information,” which have been reportedly smuggled out of the previous Soviet Union. Reportedly, $10,00Zero was paid for the knowledge. The small print of those secret recordsdata have been first provided to most of the people on 9-13-98 as a part of a TNT particular titled “The Secret UFO Information of the KGB.” The present featured extraordinary movie and nonetheless pictures of the UFO restoration, and in addition a portion of post-mortem movie on a part of an alien physique.

The occasion itself, based on the recordsdata, occurred within the state of Sverdlovsky, which was previously Yekatrinburg of the us. The crash story follows a well-known sample usually related to this kind of report. The fiery crash of an unknown object occurred in March 1969. The positioning was secured by the Russian navy, and one useless alien was discovered within the wreckage. The stays of the craft and alien have been dropped at a safe location, and the alien physique was autopsied. Each nonetheless and shifting photos have been taken of the craft, its retrieval, and the alien post-mortem. The post-mortem reveals solely an alien torso and arm. From the scale of the physique elements, the alien would have been an especially small being.

The TNT particular options Roger Moore, veteran actor and former James Bond, who discusses different UFO occasions, together with interviews with UFO specialists, CIA brokers, and different movie. In all probability essentially the most notable footage is from MIG gun cameras of confrontations with UFOs. There have been just a few nonetheless frames of this footage in America, and I’ve not been ready as of this writing, 11-01-2002, to acquire the movies. The present itself is mediocre, and its solely redeeming high quality is the presentation of the UFO crash story. Supposedly, the crash story was validated by secret KGB paperwork.

The footage on the crash web site does appear to be genuine not less than on a number of factors. The truck within the movie is a circa 1950 mannequin ZIS151, which has not been utilized by the navy for fairly a while, and the truck would have been troublesome to seek out to stage a hoax with. Different components of the movie don’t exhibit any apparent indicators of a hoax, as to the motion of the troopers, the timing of the movie as to shadows, and the UFO itself.

There are additionally a number of paperwork proven to confirm the occasion itself, and an eyewitness to the occasion who swears that the restoration mission did happen. The footage of the post-mortem movie reveals personnel with out caps and robes, which appeared odd to me at first, however after some analysis I discovered that this was commonplace for that period in Russia.
The furnishings within the room are acceptable, and in Russia have most likely not modified a lot right now. Three males of their 20’s and 30’s are performing the process, and one lady is taking notes. The observe taker is recognized as KGB stenographer O. A. Pshonikina. The alien’s torso and arm are mendacity collectively on the desk because the post-mortem is carried out, and there are paperwork proven to assist the post-mortem.

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Though the USA-Russia relationship is far improved over just a few years in the past, it nonetheless lacks. Any data acquired is topic to translation, and sometimes occasions there are issues with interpretation. It’s unhappy there may be no more cooperation between the 2 nations. The case of the 1969 retrieval and post-mortem are troublesome to evaluate. Till extra data is uncovered, it would stay unsubstantiated.


UFO Virginia, Brazil

Supply: Press launch by A.J. Gevaerd, Editor of UFO Journal (Brazil), June 12th, 1996
On January 20, Army forces captured two extraterrestrial creatures nonetheless alive in Brazil. The seize occurred in neighboring areas of metropolis of Varginha, State of Minas Gerais, Central Brazil. The very fact is to be thought of one of the important ever registered on this nation and in your complete world. Army authorities are preserving secret all particulars of the operation, however some data has already leaked to the UFO group as a result of investigative job of Dr., Ubiraja Franco Rodrigues and Vitorio Paccaccini who lives close by and acknowledged as severe and devoted researchers.

On the afternoon of January 20, about 3.30 PM native time, Three younger ladies named Liliane, Valquiria and Katia noticed an odd creature in a area of small bushes just a few blocks from the place they reside. It was Saturday they usually have been getting back from their jobs when, crossing an empty space their consideration was attracted by an odd being just a few meters away. The ET was kneeling and appeared prefer it was damage, struggling some type of ache. No UFO was ever seen. The ladies noticed it for a couple of minutes and run away, afraid that they’d simply encountered the satan….

The three ladies have been extensively interrogated by above talked about researchers, leaving little doubt in anyway about what occurred. Quite simple children, they described the ET’s as being a darkish brown creature, with a small physique of 4 – 5 toes in top, no hair in any respect, huge brown head, small neck. It additionally appeared to have some greasy, darkish oil on its pores and skin. A wierd odor was seen by the mom of the ladies, when she went to the positioning. The top of the creature had 2 huge purple eyes, no pupils, very small mouth and nostril and – what’s attention-grabbing – Three protuberances within the head. The ladies described such protuberances as horns.

Following the leads, researcher Rodrigues and Pacaccini began making inquiries in all places within the city of Varginha, so as to know if anyone else had seen the identical creature. They discovered a number of different individuals who additionally noticed the ET’s in the identical location and possibly different ET’s in several places. Whereas conducting their very own investigations, each found that completely different witnesses has seen military vans and different navy car and personnel that very morning of that day, just a few blocks from the place the ladies noticed the ET’s.

In looking for out what the navy have been doing, Rodrigues and Pacaccini got here to satisfy just a few troopers and sergeants. One among them determined to speak secretly about their mission, in a confidential taped interview. This Sergeant confirmed that, about 9:00 AM, January 20. the Hearth Division of Varginha was required to seize an odd animal within the space. When 4 fireman arrived in a truck within the place, they seen that it was not any unusual animal in any respect, and reported the very fact to the Military Sergeant Faculty Commander in neighboring metropolis of Tres Coracoes (about 10 miles east of Varginha)

Military truck was despatched to the place and each forces captured the creature utilizing nets and tools frequently used to seize wild animals. The ET was positioned until alive in a field that was then coated by resistant material. The field was positioned on high of the truck, the car headed to the Military Sergeant Faculty and all personnel concerned was ordered to not discuss it with anybody else “It was a Secret Operation” informed them the lieutenant-colonel Wanderley, who commanded the operation. After such uncommon, confidential report just a few different navy determined to come back ahead and communicate in regards to the captures so long as their identities have been completely saved secret. All of them confirmed, on taped interviews, that a second creature (probably the identical one seen by the ladies that afternoon) was captured on the evening of January 20, by personnel from the Military and the Hearth Division. Particulars of such operation is totally recognized. This creature an identical to the primary one, was taken to the Regional Common Hospital of Varginha that very same evening, stayed there for just a few hours after which was transferred to a greater geared up facility, the Humanitas Hospital.

Just a few nurses and personnel from Regional Common Hospital had confirmed some info they usually have been all suppressed. People who had contacts with the second creature have been suggested to keep away from press and UFO Researchers and to not discuss it with anybody, not ever their households or relations. AT the Humanities Hospital the second creature was saved not less than for two days and on the second evening on January 22nd an enormous navy operation occurred to take away the creature already useless.

Interviews with among the navy who participated on this new operation, eradicating the creature from the Humanitas Hospital, declared that Three Military vans have been used, each pushed by 2 completely different troopers. It’s believed that Three vans have been used to take away just one physique so as to keep away from the troopers to know wherein truck wouldn’t it be transported. The drivers and their follows couldn’t see the main points of the operations, as they have been saved exterior the hospital space. Army personnel from the Military Inside Intelligence (known as “S-2” in Brazil and intensely violent and repressive) have been chargeable for getting the corpse from the inside of the hospital, inserting it in a field after which in one of many vans.

All Three vans then have been taken to a navy facility in Campinas, State of Sao Paulo, about 200 miles from Varginha, in the midst of the evening. There, the corpse was eliminated to the College of Campinas , the most effective establishments within the nation. It’s believed – and we have already got detailed data to be quickly launched that the ET physique was autopsied by Dr. Badan Palhares, worldwide acclaimed as the most effective professionals in that space alive (he was the one who autopsied German Nazi Mengele, about ten years in the past) Palhares, in addition to another authority concerned, denied he was concerned in any such operations.

UFO researchers from all around the nation have been serving to carefully Rodrigues and Pacaccini, so as to uncover each element of the seize of the 2 ET’s, Media in Brazil has by no means been so lively and nice majority of inhabitants believes that the case is actual and that the navy and civil authorities concerned are preserving the info secret. Many unusual info are occurring concurrently, corresponding to jail of troopers, Sergeants being transferred at quick discover and so forth. The telephones of many UFO researchers concerned within the case are confirmed to be tapped and some threats have been made anonymously.

Thus far, nearly all particulars of the entire operation are recognized to the UFO researchers and some can already been launched. In a matter of weeks, all data might be totally disclosed by the UFO researchers concerned, all through the UFO Journal, to your complete world.

On a regular basis new items of this implausible puzzle are being acquired by researchers in lots of cities and increasingly navy personnel have agreed to speak. In the meantime, the area the place Varginha is situated, within the South of State of Minas Gerais, is topic to one of many largest UFO waves ever registered, the massive UFO’s in shut vary observations, landings and get in touch with



UFO in Bolivia

Supply: Michael Hesemann, 1998
On Could 6, 1978, at about 4:15 p.m., one thing crashed right into a mountain close to El Taire on the Bermejo River, the border between the Bolivian province of Tarija and Argentina. 1000’s of individuals noticed this occurring and later described the item as being cylindrical in form with a flaming tail. It had prompted a supersonic bang that was heard as much as 150 miles away and that cracked windowpanes as distant as 30 miles in each path. The subsequent day, the papers have been speculating on what had come down in that godforsaken place. The reasons ranged from meteorites to UFOs and belated reentry of some Apollo capsule. All of them referred to statements of eye witnesses.

Then it was introduced that the Argentinian authorities had despatched the 20th unit of the border police to the realm in query to search for wreckage on their aspect of the border. The search in that mountainous nation might final for weeks, so swarms of reporters went to the closest huge city, Aguas Blancas, to take up quarters there and await additional developments, in addition to to interview eyewitnesses within the city. And actually, there have been numerous witnesses who claimed to have seen the item. Most of them described it as oval or cylindrical and metallic. The military, too, gave the impression to be satisfied that it was a UFO. Corporal Natalio Farfan Ruiz, the commandant of a small border police unit on the little village of La Marmora (800 inhabitants), confirmed the crash to Argentinian reporters saying: “It was about 4:30 p.m. when a cylindrical object made the earth tremble. Simply think about what would have occurred if the UFO had fallen on the homes!” Policeman Juan Hurtado had additionally seen what had occurred: “It appeared like a huge wine container emitting a hint of white smoke. I noticed it clearly. It flew straight above my head. I used to be on obligation and at that second was speaking with three engineers from the mine in La Paz, after we noticed the item crashing into the El Taire mountain. The impression was so sturdy that it threw me to the bottom. The earth trembled at that second.”

Lastly, the Bolivian Air Power despatched three single-motored AT6 airplanes—a mannequin from World Struggle II—to the realm and found the crash web site on the southern slope of the El Taire mountain. Whereas the pilots discovered it inconceivable to land wherever close to it, the newspaper Clarin of Buenos Aires introduced on Could 14, that the item had been discovered. As proof, they quoted the police chief of Tarija: “Our males have found the item and inspected it, however have acquired no directions for additional motion. It’s a boring metallic cylinder twelve toes lengthy with just a few dents. Nobody is aware of what’s inside it, and we’re awaiting the arrival of assorted technical commissions. A NASA knowledgeable can be anticipated to reach tomorrow morning.”

As a matter of reality, no NASA knowledgeable got here at Tarija.-As an alternative, two U.S. Air Power officers, Col. Robert Simmons and Maj. John Heise arrived. Based on a newspaper, though these officers have been formally on go away, they’d been instructed to take the item to the USA in a Hercules C-130 transport machine, which was ready for them at La Paz. When different newspapers made inquiries on the American Embassy relating to this secret mission of Simmons and Heise they have been met with a denial. Solely two years later, 5 related paperwork have been launched by the U.S. State Division: they revealed that Simmons and Heise had been assigned to the navy attache of the U.S. Embassy in La Paz and did, in truth, fly to Tarija accompanied by an officer of the Bolivian Air Power, in reference to Challenge Moon Mud.

The primary of those paperwork was a telex despatched by the U.S. Ambassador in Bolivia, Paul H. Boeker, to the State Division. In that, he quoted newspaper stories and requested the division “to ask the related companies whether or not they might clarify what this object could possibly be,” including “over the last week, increasingly UFO stories are coming from this area.” The reply was a telex labeled “secret” dated Could 18 wherein the U.S. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance personally declared: “Preliminary data has been checked with acceptable authorities companies. No direct correlation with recognized house objects that will have reentered the earth’s ambiance close to Could 6 will be made. Nonetheless we’re persevering with to look at any potentialities.”

He then referred the embassy to “State aerogram A-6343” of July 26, 1973, labeled ‘Secret,’ “which gives background data and steerage for coping with house objects. Particularly any data pertaining to the pre-impact observations, path of trajectory, variety of objects noticed, time of impression and detailed description, together with any markings could be useful.” The subsequent doc was a “Moon Mud Message” of the workplace of the U.S. navy attache, dated Could 24, addressed to the Division for International Applied sciences on the Wright Patterson Air Power Base and the headquarters of the U.S. Air Power on the Pentagon, labeled as “confidential NOFORN (No Forwarding To International Nationals).” Beneath reference Moon Mud, the navy attache at La Paz reported that “they’d taken pains to confirm the press stories. ” Along with that, they’d requested the final employees of the Bolivian Air Power and the chiefs of the Bolivian Military who had declared—apparently after a primary unsuccessful try— “we’ve got despatched search troops to the realm in query however have discovered nothing. ” The military got here to the conclusion that there might have been an object there, or possibly not, however thus far they’d discovered nothing. The attache added that he would ship two officers to Tarija and promised, “We’ll hold you knowledgeable if something turns up. ” These “two officers,” we will assume, have been Simmons and Heise.

Regrettably, no additional stories regarding the Simmons-Heise expedition have been launched and, to get an image of what occurred, we’re pressured to depend on stories within the Argentinian press. Apparently, nonetheless, no person got here to the conclusion that a meteorite had hit the earth. On the world-famous Smithsonian Establishment there’s a information financial institution of scientific occurrences, or an “alarm community,” that retains monitor of each volcanic eruption, each earthquake and each meteorite collision since 1973 with painstaking accuracy. The info financial institution reveals no point out of a meteorite falling throughout Could 1978 on the Bolivian-Argentinian border. The Air Power paperwork reveal that the 1127th area actions group, which coordinated Challenge Moon Mud, was all in favour of one other activity in addition to the recoveiy of UFO wrecks and different house objects, represented by the code identify HUMINT. This code identify, quick for Human Intelligence, means the gathering of data from human sources via clandestine undercover strategies—in distinction to interrogations, studying via recordsdata and correspondence, and so forth. In different phrases, it meant the gathering of details about UFOs from dependable sources via a sport of deceit. The tactic which was chosen to attain HUMINTs targets was so weird that no person exterior the UFO group would consider it. It was the start of the “Males In Black,” topic of a Hollywood blockbuster film in 1997.


UFO Canada


Some of the extraordinary, UFO encounters of the 20th century occurred within the tiny fishing group of Shag Harbor on the southern tip of Nova Scotia. This occasion, whereas comparatively obscure within the sense of public consciousness, is among the most completely and formally documented UFO encounters of the final 30 years, and is definitely as sensational and as mystifying because the well-known Roswell incident.

Within the night skies of October 4, 1967 a number of residents of the village first seen a relatively unusual grouping of orange lights. A number of eyewitness accounts point out that there have been 4 orange lights that night. 5 of those witnesses included a gaggle of youngsters who watched these lights flash in sequence for a number of minutes, after which instantly and quickly dive in a pointy 45 diploma angle towards the water’s floor.

To the amazement of the kids, and different eyewitnesses, on hitting the water’s floor the lights didn’t instantly disappear beneath the mild swells, however appeared to drift on the floor, roughly one-half mile from the shore. The preliminary panicked response of the observers was that they have been witnessing the emergency ditching or crash of an airplane. The primary report phoned into the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) in Barrington, got here from a younger fisherman who informed them that an airliner had gone into the bay. The primary response by the police dispatcher was that the younger man had been consuming, nonetheless after a right away rash of 10 further calls reporting the incident, the police rapidly re-contacted the younger fisherman for location particulars.

Inside the similar time interval nonetheless, Constable Ron Pound of the RCMP was on patrol on Freeway 3, heading towards Shag Harbor, and had been observing the unusual lights as he elevated his velocity towards the incident. Constable Pound’s report was that he believed that the 4 lights have been coming from a single plane, that he estimated to be about 60 toes lengthy.


As Constable Pound reached the shoreline he was joined by two different officers, Police Corporal Victor Werbieki, and Constable Ron O’Brien. Moreover, a number of of the fishing village’s residents stood on the shore watching and questioning what to do subsequent. Based on Constable Pound and the opposite officers, the orange lights slowly modified to yellow, and the item appeared to maneuver slowly throughout the floor of the water, leaving a yellowish foam in it’s wake. By this time no fewer than 30 witnesses from numerous vantage factors, watched as the item slowly drifted farther from shore, all would later describe the item as about 60 toes lengthy, 10 or so toes excessive and dome formed.

After about 5 minutes, the item began to sink beneath the icy North Atlantic waves. Just a few of the eyewitnesses reported listening to a “whooshing” noise. Whereas the RCMP had already been in communication with the Canadian Price Guard and Cutter 101 was on the best way, two of the RCMP officers and some native fisherman hurriedly launched their boats to hurry to the rescue of any survivors. Because the small boats, and Cutter 101 reached the situation, the lights have been not seen however they discovered themselves crusing via a thick yellow foam, that indicated that one thing had submerged. (The fisherman report that the froth was not sea foam, and appeared like nothing they’d ever seen. In truth most have been unnerved by the truth that they needed to sail via it to search for survivors.)

After a number of hours of looking out nothing was discovered and the search was known as off at roughly 3:00 am. Each the NORAD and the Rescue Coordination Heart in Halifax had been contacted by the RCMP and located that there had been no stories that night of lacking plane, both civilian or navy.

On October fifth (the next day), the Rescue Coordination Heart filed a report with the Canadian Forces Headquarters in Ottawa. This report acknowledged that one thing had crashed into the water in Shag Harbor, however the object was of “unknown origin.” The Canadian Forces Headquarters dispatched the HMCS Granby to Shag Harbor crash web site, and utilizing superior detection tools and specifically skilled divers from the Navy and the RCMP, the Canadian navy systematically searched the ocean flooring for a number of days, and located nothing.

Right here in 1967, the thriller ended with no bodily proof ever recovered, and no further leads.

For just a few years the story kicked round within the native papers. From time-to-time numerous theories and intriguing rumors emerged about Russian spacecraft, or Russian submarines, and an American follow-up investigation. Then the story merely pale into obscurity.

That’s, till 1993 when the Shag Harbor incident as soon as once more was dropped at the eye of the general public.

This was as a result of devoted investigative efforts of two males who’re *MUFON investigators. Chris Kinds, assisted by Doug Ledger, utilizing public data corresponding to newspaper clippings, and police stories have been capable of monitor down and interview most of the eyewitnesses and people concerned within the Shag Harbor sighting, the rescue try, and within the subsequent investigation. By their work, some extraordinarily compelling clues and superb new insights have been uncovered.

In interviews with divers, and crew members from the HMCS Granby they found some startling data. The article that dove into the waters off of Shag Harbor had been tracked, and it had really traveled underwater for a distance of about 25 miles to a spot known as Authorities Level. Within the 1960’s the U.S. had maintained a small however technically superior navy base at Authorities Level, managing a Magnetic Anomaly Detection system (MAD grid) for the aim of detecting and monitoring submarines within the North Atlantic utilizing .

The U.S. navy had most undoubtedly detected the item on its delicate monitoring tools. Naval vessels have been dispatched and positioned over the unidentified object, the place it had stopped. After Three days of no motion, and never understanding precisely what it was, the navy was planning to provoke an investigative salvage operation. Because the Navy waited and deliberate, the detection tools picked up one other object shifting in, and to the amazement of all these concerned, joined the primary object on the ocean flooring. The hypothesis on the time, was that the second UFO (I suppose formally now an Underwater Flying Object) was there to render assist to the primary object.

Not totally comprehending what they have been coping with the Navy determined it was finest to standby and observe. For almost every week the Navy vessels held their place over the UFOs. The detection base nonetheless, situated a Russian submarine that had entered Canadian waters to the north, so a number of of the vessels needed to be pulled off track to sail north to research. Beneath the duvet of this new exercise on the floor, each UFOs made their transfer, accelerating underwater towards the Gulf of Maine. The remaining Navy vessels pursued them towards the USA, however the objects continued to distance themselves from their trackers. To the astonishment of the pursuers, each of the objects broke to the floor and shot skyward to fade inside seconds.

Based on the researchers, whereas these observations have been nicely corroborated by many credible eye witnesses, these accounts got “Off the File” by navy, ex-military, and civilian personnel who worry harassment, ridicule, or lack of pension. In order the saying goes, “solely the names have been modified to guard the harmless.”

Clearly, a sequence of very extraordinary, and nonetheless unexplained UFO encounters, involving the navies of two nations and NORAD, occurred at Shag Harbor on October 4th 1967, and within the following week within the deep waters off of the price of Maine.

The Kecksburg UFO

Supply: Stan Gordon
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“The Kecksburg, PA UFO Crash Incident”
Stan Gordon

It was December 9,1965, that an occasion occurred about 40 miles from Pittsburgh in a rural space of western Pennsylvania, that even now stays controversial for some, and mysterious to others. On the time many individuals noticed a superb object shifting throughout the sky. The information media targeted on a younger boy, who whereas taking part in exterior, stated he noticed an object fall from the sky into some close by woods. The media pursued his story since there have been quite a few accounts from others, that an aerial object was seen over a big space together with many stories from the better Pittsburgh space. In addition to the police authorities, numerous newspapers, and radio and television stations round Pittsburgh, had their cellphone traces jammed with calls in regards to the object within the sky. Coincidentally, creator Frank Edwards, who had written some widespread books on UFO’s, was a visitor on a KDKA radio speak present in Pittsburgh that night, hosted by the late Mike Levine.

Throughout my years of investigation into the matter, different witnesses who noticed the item go down into the woods that day have been situated. It has been acknowledged that moments after the item fell, blue smoke rose up among the many timber, however dissipated rapidly. Many individuals say that the navy, together with members of the Military and Air Power, started to reach within the space across the village of Keeksburg inside just a few hours after the reported touchdown. Through the night, reporters from quite a few media sources went to Kecksburg to research the occasion. The realm across the alleged impression web site was cordoned off, and a seek for the item was carried out within the woods. Neither civilians nor reporters have been capable of get close to the spot the place the item had reportedly fallen. Tons of of spectators appeared on from a slim nation street which circled across the space, unaware that the item seems to have fallen on the alternative aspect of the woods.


As time handed that night, many individuals left upset that they couldn’t see the item. Just a few curious of us tried to sneak down into the woods, and later informed me that they have been tuned again by the navy. Late that evening, others say they noticed a navy flatbed tractor-trailer truck, carrying a big tarpaulin coated object, leaving the realm at a excessive fee of velocity. Reporters are among the many many witnesses who confirm that they noticed navy personnel within the Kecksburg space that evening. The entrance web page of the Greensburg, PA Tribune-Overview county version dated December 10, 1965, ran the headlines “Unidentified Flying Object Falls Close to Kecksburg” and “Military Ropes Off Space.” Town version of the identical paper nonetheless, on the identical day ran the headline “Searchers Fail To Discover Object.” Formally, no object was discovered within the woods by searchers. It was advised that the probably clarification was that the sensible object within the sky was a meteor. However phrase that one thing was faraway from the positioning by the navy that evening, rapidly circulated across the county. The Kecksburg incident remained a subject for space radio speak reveals for years because it does right now. Because the years handed, I’d obtain numerous accounts from sources who claimed information of the occasion. A lot of these concerned with the incident even right now, want to stay nameless. Others have gone public and stand by their accounts. Some have confronted private assaults and mock. Many vital witnesses have handed away.

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What we now know is that there are people who say that they went down into the woods that December day in 1965, earlier than the navy arrived, and got here throughout upon a big metallic acorn formed object partially buried within the floor. The system was massive sufficient for a person to face within it. The article was a bronze-gold colour, and seemed to be one stable piece of steel, displaying no rivets or seams. In the back of the acorn form was what witness Jim Romansky calls the bumper space.

Upon this space have been uncommon markings that Romansky says appeared much like historic Egyptian hieroglyphics. Romansky who has been a machinist for a few years, says the item itself, appeared as if it had been made out of liquid steel and poured into an enormous mould. Because the object was impacted within the floor, the underside portion was not seen, however what could possibly be seen appeared nicely intact. The late John Murphy, was the brand new director of WHJB radio in Greensburg on the time, and is believed to have been the primary reporter on the scene. His former spouse says that she was in radio contact with him from the positioning that day, and that he informed her that he went down into the woods and noticed the item. Varied informants have approached me with data. A few of these have been individuals who had navy or authorities affiliation and need to not be recognized presently. Some data is predicted to be revealed sooner or later, when these sources really feel that they’re protected to reveal what they know.

I’ve additionally acquired nameless ideas that pointed me in the fitting path which helped to uncover different particulars. Earlier than Unsolved Mysteries broadcast their story about Kecksburg in 1990, 1 was contacted by a former Air Power safety policeman who informed me that he was among the many unit that guarded the item from PA, when it arrived within the early morning hours of December 10, 1965 at Lockbourne Air Power close to Columbus, Ohio. He remembers excessive safety measures on the time, and says that the item was solely a the bottom for a short while, after which continued on to Wright-Patterson Air Power base close to Dayton, Ohio.

We later discovered that the item was allegedly sealed up inside a constructing at that base. After years of trying to find authorities paperwork regarding this occasion, the one official document situated was within the Air Power Challenge Blue Ebook recordsdata. Included within the report it was acknowledged “An extra name was made to the Oakdale Radar web site in Pennsylvania. A 3 man workforce has been dispatched to Acme [Some residents not far from the site have an Acme mailing address] to research and decide up an object that began a fireplace.” Whereas the report reveals loads of curiosity from numerous companies regarding the aerial object, the report additionally signifies that the search discovered nothing. I’ve discovered quite a bit in regards to the Kecksburg case through the years, but there stay many unanswered questions. I absolutely don’t have all the solutions.

Primarily based on the accounts of multitudes of eyewitnesses which I’ve interviewed, I’m satisfied that an object did fall from the sky and apparently was eliminated by the navy. Different witnesses say they noticed NASA personnel on the scene that evening additionally concerned within the search. Many have requested me what I consider that the item was, and my reply nonetheless is “I don’t know.” As I’ve acknowledged prior to now, the 2 probably potentialities are (1) a extremely superior man-made house probe with some reentry management functionality (2) an extraterrestrial spacecraft. It has been confirmed that a defective Soviet Venus probe recognized as Kosmos 96, reentered in Canada on the identical date, however at about 3:18 A.M. The sightings round Kecksburg occurred at about 4:47 P.M. many hours later. The Russian’s have informed me that Kosmos 96 was not the supply of what fell that day.

Different researchers have supplied me with attention-grabbing however unverifiable data, that they’ve talked with former NASA sources who claimed to have examined the item which fell in PA, and decided it to be Soviet in origin. I’ve additionally talked with two former navy males who’re unknown to one another, that informed me that in completely different years, and at completely different installations, they noticed the restoration report on the Kecksburg object, and each stated the report indicated that the item was extraterrestrial. From what the observers inform us, the item no matter it was, seemed to be slowing down just a few miles earlier than it impacted. Throughout it’s flight, it seems to have made some turns, and people who noticed the item drop from the sky, say it was shifting fairly slowly because it moved in the direction of the woods. This may account for the great situation of the item itself, and the little injury on the impression web site, apart from timber which have been reportedly knocked down. One query we should ask is what was it that fell which was so vital that it prompted the navy to behave the best way they did on the scene? Varied witnesses have now gone public confirming that armed solders have been across the village, and have been stopping anybody from trespassing close to the crash web site. Jerry Betters, a preferred jazz musician from Pittsburgh, has gone public and informed his story that troopers aimed rifles at him and his mates, ordering them from a again street, as an Military flat mattress tractor-trailer with an acorn-shaped object on board, was making it’s method up from a area. Extra lately, a distinguished businessman contacted me and informed me how he and his mates, then youngsters in 1965, tried to get close to the positioning and have been stopped my navy personnel. He was frightened on the time of the expertise, he thought the soldier was going to shoot him. Would armed troopers reply to the scene of a meteorite crash? Who issued the orders for such an operation to happen?

A few of you’re conscious that earlier this yr, I launched a 92 minute video documentary on the incident known as “Kecksburg The Untold Story” which I produced at my very own expense. Many key witnesses are getting up in years, and a few will not be in good well being. This was a possibility for these concerned to inform their very own experiences about what occurred. For the primary time some new and startling data is revealed about what allegedly occurred. A few of these folks reveal particulars which strongly suggests a coverup. Additionally included within the video, are audio excerpts from the unique 1965 WHJB radio broadcast “Object In The Woods.” One man particulars his declare of seeing coated physique inside a constructing at Wright-Patterson, on the similar time the Kecksburg object was being examined.

This case is far to concerned to cowl right here intimately. One good supply of data on the case will be present in Kevin Randle’s ebook “A Historical past of UFO Crashes.” The Kecksburg thriller stays. Was the item a person made house system or did we obtain a customer from exterior of our world? Lately whereas visiting an space enterprise, a employee acknowledged me and requested in regards to the Kecksburg case. He informed me that he has had an curiosity within the incident for years since he had a relative who labored on the pentagon on the time, and this relative had made a particular journey to this space to research that matter. When this particular person requested his relative about what had occurred, he refused to offer any particulars, however his phrases have been remembered “There was extra to it you then’ll ever know.” I’ve little doubt that there are different people who’ve vital data on this case. It’s time that the reality is revealed, no matter what the supply of the item was. It’s been 33 years, it’s time to interrupt the silence.


Ubatuba, Brazil Fragments of Sept 1957

Supply: Billy Sales space, About.com
Abstract: On September 14, 1957, Ibrahim Sued, a columnist for the Rio de Janeiro newspaper O Globo, printed a letter which he had acquired, regarding a UFO incident. Accompanying the letter have been three small items of white steel. Thus was ushered in one of the controversial of all physical-evidence circumstances. The author of the letter described an occasion wherein a “flying disk” exploded over the seaside at Ubatuba, in Sao Paulo Province.

“Rained Down” from Exploding Disc: Among the steel, which had “rained down” from the exploding disk, was collected, and three small items have been included within the letter to Sued. Sadly, the signature on the letter was illegible. Moreover, the id of all witnesses to the unique seaside occasion at Ubatuba stays unknown, regardless of intensive searches by the Brazilian consultant of APRO, Dr. Olavo FONTES. This lack of witnesses is among the biggest weaknesses of the Ubatuba case.

Two Separate Incidents: This piece of steel was picked up after a UFO explosion over Toninha’s Seaside, in Ubatuba, Sao Paula State, Brazil, in 1957. This pattern was analyzed and the outcomes confirmed a 99.99% pure magnesium. This different piece fell down from one of many three UFO’s that had flown over town of Caminas, Sao Paulo State, Brazil, on December, 1954. Checks proved the fabric to be 88.91% pure tin.

Evaluation of Fragments: Mr. Sued gave all three items of steel to Dr. Fontes, who in flip had one in all them analyzed on the Mineral Manufacturing Laboratory of the Division of Mineral Manufacturing within the Brazilian Ministry of Agriculture. Dr. Fontes personally delivered the samples to the chief chemist, Dr. Fiegl, an internationally recognized specialist. A qualitative, acid check was first made on a small chip, which confirmed that the fragments have been really metallic.

Solely Magnesium: One of many authentic fragments, designated Pattern No.1 by Dr. Fontes, was subdivided into a number of items and two of the items have been submitted to the Spectrographic Part of the Mineral Manufacturing Laboratory Semi-Quantitative Emmission Spectrochemical Evaluation. One of many items was analyzed by Dr. Luisa Maria A. Barbosa. The evaluation surprisingly revealed that the pattern contained solely the factor magnesium.

First Take a look at Validated: A second fragment of Pattern No.1 was submitted to a separate spectrographic evaluation by Mr. Elson Teixeira of the Mineral Manufacturing Laboratory. Mr. Teixeira confirmed Dr. Barbosa’s discovering that Pattern No.1 was pure magnesium. Additional checks have been run on fragments of Pattern No. 1. These included Debye-Scherrer-Hull powder sample X-ray diffraction evaluation, density measurement, and radiation checks.

Not Made on Earth: The importance of Dr. Barbosa’s and Mr. Teixeira’s findings is that it’s inconceivable to supply any factor, terrestrially, that’s completely spectrographically pure. These outcomes, due to this fact, are sometimes cited by proponents of UFO extraterrestrial existence as proof that the Ubatuba materials should be EXTRATERRESTRIAL. Sadly, this supposition can’t be confirmed, as a result of lack of any additional Pattern No.1 fragments for verification evaluation.

Extra Witnesses Wanted: The Ubatuba incident is actually in want of futher verification, particularly the main points of the UFO incident itself. All we’ve got is the phrase of 1 nameless one that wrote the letter acquired by a newspaper. The case itself is dated by the receipt of the letter, and never the incident of the crash, so there aren’t any first hand witnesses to the UFO incident itself.

Tomato Man Images of Alien Physique and the Laredo, Texas

TOMATO MAN REVISITED: The Alleged Alien Physique Images
by Ron Schaffner


Usually, the historical past of UFO reportage just isn’t a superb one. All too typically, researchers are far too desperate to latch onto a superb story, to connect themselves to a “main” case, that vital particulars will not be assessed and evidentiary credibility just isn’t addressed. Maybe the very best instance of that is Frank Scully’s Behind the Flying Saucers. Intrigued by the story of a crashed saucer, Scully uncared for to examine his sources, a mistake that got here again to hang-out him. J.P. Cahn of the San Francisco Chronicle did examine into Scully’s sources and located them to be con males. Scully was the sufferer of a hoax.

Consequently, crashed UFO tales are recycled right down to succeeding generations of Ufologists. Many of those alleged tales are nothing greater than “spin-offs” of earlier accounts. When one considers the quantity of disinformation unfold through the years, it turns into troublesome to separate reality from fiction.

Tales, corresponding to Roswell and Aztec have graced the world with accounts of aliens and conspiracies inside the USA authorities. It isn’t this author’s intent to show nor disprove these explicit tales. Slightly, it’s to point out the reader that with somewhat creativeness a hoax will be perpetrated utilizing data from nicely publicized circumstances and.

The next report is well-known throughout the circle of senior Ufologists. Subsequently, it’s endorsed to the freshman Ufologist who could want to hunt the reality in a generally not-so-truthful topic.


The next data was relayed to the previous Ohio UFO Investigators League (OUFOIL) by Willard McIntyre who was concerned with a gaggle calling itself the Mutual Anomaly Analysis Heart and Analysis Community (MARCEN). At the moment, this creator was the Investigations Director for OUFOIL. This data alternate occurred in the course of the years of 1979 and 1981.

Mr. McIntyre claimed to have corresponded with a gentleman in Tennessee in December, 1978. This unnamed supply despatched him an 8X10 shiny print of the charred stays of a head and torso, which he claimed have been extraterrestrial. McIntyre wrote again saying that he thought the picture represented a lightweight plane crash and its burned pilot.

In early January, 1979, this alleged supply wrote again and defined intimately a narrative of a clandestine operation executed on July 7, 1948, to doc the crash of a UFO and its useless occupant . By November of 1979, the unique unfavourable was mailed to McIntyre. One other unfavourable was shipped the next Could displaying a burned physique mendacity in vegetation on a hillside.

The supply was involved for potential prosecution of the federal government, so it was agreed that he would obtain full confidentiality. Allegedly, McIntyre checked out his credentials and all the pieces appeared so as.

McIntyre suggested us that he despatched the unique negatives to Eastman Kodak for evaluation:

“The conclusion of Eastman Kodak, which we initially felt was of doubtful worth due to the methodology used, pointed to a unfavourable processed not less than thirty years beforehand. Micro densitometer traces of the unfavourable confirmed us that no deliberated hoaxing had been achieved, not less than photographically, within the manufacturing of the unfavourable.”

Negatives have been additionally mailed to William Spaulding of Floor Saucer Watch (GSW). This group speculate that the images represented the stays of a useless monkey used within the V-2 rocket experiments of the 1940s and ‘50s. (1)


The supply stated that as a younger Naval photographer in 1948, he was flown to Mexico to doc the crash of 90-foot diameter “flying saucer” and its useless pilot. The photographer claimed he was assigned to White Sands, New Mexico. Previous to the incident, he visited atomic check websites and photographed the after impacts of the blasts.

In the meantime, on July 7 at roughly 1322 hours, the Distant Early Warning [DEW] line early warning radar was monitoring an object shifting at speeds in extra of two,00Zero mph when it flew over Washington state heading southeast. Upon listening to in regards to the bogey’s flight path, two fighter pilots out of Dias Air Base in Texas path cruised into place over Albuquerque to establish or intercept the item.

As the 2 F-94’s approached the UFO, it made a 90 diploma angle flip in the direction of japanese Texas with out apparently lowering in velocity. At 1410 hours, different pilots in pursuit stated the item was slowing down and was wobbling in flight. By 1429 hours, the item disappeared from all radar screens. Utilizing triangulation from all of the radar installations, it was decided that the item will need to have went down in Mexico roughly 30 miles south of Laredo, Texas.

After notifying the Mexican authorities, Military and Air Power items have been rushed to the crash web site, arriving at 1830 hours. The commander phoned Washington and was informed that a photographic workforce could be airlifted to the positioning. McIntyre’s supply claimed to be a type of photographers. They have been informed that they’d be going to a high secret airplane crash.

The workforce was picked up by an Military L-19 Chicken Canine at 2130 hours. The supply defined that it was fairly uncomfortable with 5 workforce members and their tools in such a small airplane. They arrived on the designated web site at 0215 hours. The airplane circled the realm and noticed a disc formed craft nonetheless smoldering on a closely vegetated hill.

There was one physique discovered throughout the craft. The photographers managed to get a sequence of images though there was intense warmth. When the item cooled down, the physique was eliminated to a hill aspect and one other sequence of images have been taken.

The physique was stated to be Four toes 6 inches lengthy with a head extraordinarily massive in comparison with the remainder of the torso. The eyes have been gone and there have been no seen ears, nostril or lips with only a slit with out have been tooth and a tongue could be. The arms appeared for much longer than a human and the fingers had 4 claw-like appendages.

The supply went on to clarify that the craft appeared as uncommon, however the particles appeared as if it was “earthly” in origin. There was an absence of any wiring, rubber, glass, plastic, wooden, or paper. The constructions have been sure by regular trying bolts, however couldn’t be unscrewed with standard instruments. Finally, they have been chiseled off. The steel was very arduous. Diamond drills and saws have been used for disassembly. One other steel was found which gave the impression to be a lighter grade and reducing torches have been used.

Military docs arrived on July Eight and preformed an examination of the physique. They may not discover any reproductive organs. They in contrast the grey pores and skin to the feel of a human feminine breast. The bone construction was extra sophisticated than a human and no muscle fiber was found throughout the torso.

We’re additionally informed that a metallurgist was introduced in to find out the alloy of the item. He believed this alloy had a honey combed crystalline construction in contrast to something know in “earthy” expertise. He thought that it could possibly be silicon primarily based.

All the hill aspect and valley under have been affected by foil fragment; very very similar to cigarette packages, solely more durable. The fabric couldn’t be bent. All of the fragments have been confiscated by the navy.

At 1300 hours, the next day, a C-47 arrived and the physique was shipped to an origin unknown to the supply. The remaining wreckage was loaded on US and Mexican vans which headed within the path of Laredo, Texas. The supply defined that he was not informed the vacation spot.

The supply returned to White Sands and started work on the photographic proof with a workforce of different specialists. Allegedly, they have been consistently watched by Marine safety. The mysterious Commander returned to Washington by no means to be seen once more.

Just a few years later, the supply eliminated 40 negatives from the file and made duplicates and positioned the originals again.


In 1981, McIntyre and Dennis Pilichis (The UFO Data Community ; UFOIN) wrote a booklet entitled: “Alien Physique Photographs: An Up to date Report”. Though OUFOIL’s identify was represented, we had no contribution what so ever to its manufacturing. A few of our members believed the pictures to be genuine, Nonetheless the bulk, like myself had extra questions and have become skeptical of your complete story. In any case, we might solely take McIntyre’s story at face worth. After we questioned him about sure points of the story, he stalled and wouldn’t ahead us any documentation that he claimed to have. It was at this level the place we determined to start our personal unbiased investigation into the matter.

We attacked this downside by utilizing the proper investigative methodology: Eliminating all potential prosaic explanations first.

We requested ourselves, “Was McIntyre appropriate when he acknowledged that he initially believed the pictures have been of a crashed airplane and its pilot?” We started with this premise.

Our first process was to confirm that Kodak really did the picture evaluation that Mr. McIntrye claimed. A letter was despatched to Eastman Kodak together with a duplicate of the prints. We requested for documentation relating to the standard of the print, time frames and the particular person’s identify and title who supposedly did the evaluation.

We weren’t stunned when the response got here again that Kodak was not conscious of any picture work achieved on the images enclosed. Moreover, their consultant stated that Kodak wouldn’t preform any kind of testing that we desired for authenticity. (2)

The second step in our investigations led us to the Burns Institute ( Shriners Hospital for Crippled Kids, Cincinnati, Ohio) This hospital is world recognized for its work with burned sufferers. We interviewed the Chief of Workers and allowed him to review the pictures. It was his knowledgeable opinion that the pictures represented an incinerated physique of a human. The swelling of the top could be attributable to excessive warmth flash. (3)

It turned obvious to us that these pictures didn’t depict an extraterrestrial. We determined to probe somewhat deeper into the story. In any case, if the images have been a deception, then the situation surrounding them would even have suspicions.

Take into account the next:

White Sands Proving Grounds, New Mexico knowledgeable us that after a seek for data, they’d no information of any air catastrophe on the dates forwarded. As well as, they stated that they didn’t examine such incidents and there aren’t any photographic groups assigned to the bottom.(4)

We carried out a mailing to all newspapers within the area to seek out out if they’d any data of an air catastrophe inside a 3 month time span. All that replied stated they’d no data of any such occasion occurring.

The supply stated that the item was tracked by the DEW radar system. The Distant Early Warning (DEW) is a sequence of radar installations to supply a warning of enemy assault by air. The undertaking started its planning phases in 1946. Development didn’t start till 1955 and it lastly turned operational in 1957. If the alleged supply was within the navy as described, the he would have recognized that this was faulty. Is it’s potential that the particular person behind this hoaxed did not analysis the DEW Line radar techniques?(5)

We’re informed that two F-94 fighter pilots have been scrambled out of Dias Air Base to intercept the item. That is fairly an achievement contemplating that the F-94 didn’t fly till 1949 as prototypes. The Air Power didn’t fly them till 1950. (6)

Moreover, there wasn’t an operational Dias Air Base in 1948. That location would have been Abilene Military Airfield and it was deactivated in 1945. When reactivated in 1956, the bottom was known as Dyess AFB; not Dias. (7)

The supply acknowledged that his workforce was picked up by a U.S. Military L-19 “Chicken Canine” and flown to the positioning. He described his journey as being uncomfortable with 5 folks and tools being cramped into this small airplane. Sadly, the story doesn’t match as much as historic reality.

This airplane was developed for the U.S. Military as a lightweight reconnaissance plane. The primary contract for these planes have been in 1950. Manufacturing was accomplished on October 7, 1954 and these planes are nonetheless in use. They can not accommodate greater than two people and there’s no room for cargo house. (8)

With regard to the absence of wire and the metals, think about the next factors:

1. Upon nearer examination of picture #1, what seems to be two conductor cable, most likely “earthly” in origin, will be seen..

2. Close to the fitting shoulder we discover the frames of some kind of eyeglasses. It was our opinion that this was the stays of flight glasses utilized by pilots.

3. Shut scrutiny of the structural stays look man-made. You possibly can see a six-sided hex nut, tubular piping, angle iron and plenty of welded areas. The welds conform to all customary procedures indicative of that point.

#2 was cropped to order net house. The unique image we’ve got on file reveals what seems to be three people standing behind the physique. The legs of the particular person you’re seeing is unquestionably navy since his fatigues are bloused above his area boots. The others appear to be carrying raincoats. If one in all these individuals is an Officer, he’s carrying low quarters and a category “A” uniform (Greens). Based on the Air Power, the category “A” uniform with the black stripe down the aspect of the pants didn’t come into use till 1957. This uniform is simply worn in the course of the winter months. (9)

We now have no option to show nor disprove the allegations made in regards to the bodily make up of the “aliens” and their craft. Nonetheless, it must be famous that the fundamental situation is similar to different crashed saucer tales. The so-called area examinations of the craft and physique bear similarities to Roswell, Aztec, and numerous different retrieval tales. For example, this isn’t the primary time that Ufology was informed of “honeycombed” materials. The massive head can be in step with the tales all of us have heard as much as current time.

The flight path of the craft might be the biggest gaff in your complete situation. If one takes all the knowledge given and does some easy calculations, the item ought to have crashed in Oklahoma or Kansas. With a purpose to attain Mexico, our ‘spaceship’ would have needed to make one other 90 diploma flip and fly south by southwest. Mr. McIntyre informed different researchers that he knew the flight path was off. Why wasn’t this talked about within the earlier investigations? (10)


You could have been offered with a unprecedented declare. With a purpose to quantify such statements, there must be undisputable proof that such an occasion occurred. This is applicable to each the true believer and debunker. It is much better to be cautious with such claims earlier than any endorsement. Merely put, it’s an accurate process to completely examine a report back to its logical conclusion earlier than writing any report.

The above case comes down to only two potentialities. Both the declare is legitimate as a unprecedented occasion, or it’s a hoax. The easier clarification clearly favors this to be a hoax.

One might argue that ET makes use of among the similar as “Earthlings.” Possibly you’re considering, “Why undergo all this hassle with a hoax?” or, maybe, “The supply was confused on among the finer particulars.” I might additionally interject that possibly there’s a clandestine motion inside the USA to cover-up this episode. Maybe that is disinformation, a ruse to cover info relating to one other covert operation. As I beforehand acknowledged, I can not show nor disprove these statements.

What we’ll say is that the above incident couldn’t have occurred with the knowledge given. Our investigations point out this to my satisfaction. This was of a lightweight plane crash and its useless pilot. Whether or not it was navy or not continues to be a difficulty open for debate.

This report is supposed to be extra of an academic software for researchers. Sooner or later, chances are you’ll be offered with an identical account. As an goal investigator, you need to pursue each avenue at your disposal, very similar to we did. Keep in mind, that not all of the crash saucer tales have this many errors. It might take time to weed out all of the proof, professional or con. In any case, step one to defining Ufology as a worthy research is to gather all of the trash and dump it from the database.


Notice: Robert Easley is credited with coining the time period “Tomato Man”.

References: UFO

1. GSW acknowledged of their report that they felt the pictures represented a misinterpretation of a laboratory monkey from a V-2 rocket check failure. Their speculation does have advantage for different UFO crashes, however we felt it was not relevant to the moment case. OUFOIL Investigative Report; 1982; Charles Wilhelm, Editor.

2. Letter from Eastman Kodak to Ron Schaffner dated January 26, 1981.

3. Letter from Shriners Hospital for Crippled Kids to Earl Jones dated April 6, 1981

4. Letters from White Sands to Charles Wilhelm dated February 2 and 17, 1981

5. Historical past of the DEW Line 1946-1964; Okay4112 AFSHRC/HD, Maxwell AFB.

6. Letter and data packet despatched to Charles Wilhelm from Lockheed Company dated April 6, 1981.

7. USAF Historic Division, Maxwell AFB, AL. 36112

8. Division of the Military; The Heart of Army Historical past and Cessna Plane Company.

9. USAF Historic Division, Maxwell AFB

10. Letter from Willard McIntyre to Lee Graham dated June 3, 1981


New Mexico UFO


It was the columnist Frank Scully who first alerted the world to sensational tales of recovered alien craft and little males in his best-selling ebook Behind the Flying Saucers printed in 1950. Scully claimed that as much as that point there had been 4 such recoveries, one in all which was alleged to have taken place round Aztec, New Mexico, when sixteen humanoid our bodies have been recovered along with their undamaged craft. Based on Scully’s informants, the disk that landed close to Aztec was 99.99 toes in diameter, its exterior product of a lightweight steel resembling aluminum however so sturdy that no quantity of warmth (as much as 10,00Zero levels was utilized) or diamond-tipped drill had the slightest impact. The disk apparently included massive rings of steel which revolved round a central, stabilized cabin, utilizing an unfamiliar gear ratio. There have been no rivets, bolts, screws or indicators of welding. Investigators have been ultimately capable of acquire entry. Scully was informed, due to a fracture in one of many portholes, which they enlarged, revealing a knob contained in the cabin which when pushed (with a pole) prompted a hidden door to open. Sixteen small humanoids, ranging in top from 36 to 42 inches, have been supposedly discovered useless contained in the cabin, their our bodies charred to a darkish brown colour. Scully was informed that the craft landed undamaged, having landed below its personal steerage. The craft was ultimately dismantled, the investigators having found that it was manufactured in segments which fitted in grooves and have been pinned collectively across the base. The entire cabin part, measuring 18 toes in diameter was lifted out of the bottom of the saucer, round which was a gear that fitted a gear on the cabin. These segments, along with the our bodies, have been then transported to Wright Subject (Wright Patterson AFB). Among the our bodies have been later dissected and examined by the Air Power, and have been discovered to be comparable in all respects to human beings, aside from their tooth, which have been good.

New Supportive Proof?

Based on vital data printed by William Steinman in 1987 there’s a massive grain of reality within the Aztec story, and he has managed to accumulate some astonishing supportive proof. Like Scully, he’s unwilling to disclose his sources, which inevitably lays him open to fees of fabrication. Steinman found that the Aztec disk got here to earth on 25 March 1948, having been detected by three separate radar items within the southwest, one in all which was stated to have disrupted the craft’s management mechanism. The realm of impression was calculated by triangulation and this data was instantly relayed to Air Protection Command and Gen. George C. Marshall, then Secretary of State, who allegedly contacted the MJ-12 group in addition to the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU) of the Military Counterintelligence Directorate. The IPU operated out of Camp Hale, Colorado, presently, Steinman claims, and its fundamental operate was to gather and ship disabled or crashed disks to sure specified secret places. The craft was recovered inside hours by the IPU scout workforce about 12 miles northeast of Aztec. Common Marshall ordered Air Protection Command to go off alert standing, and the radar items have been suggested that there had been a false alarm. Marshall then gave orders to the commander of the IPU to arrange a restoration workforce and contacted Dr. Vannevar Bush – the. head of MJ-12 to assemble collectively a workforce of scientists to accompany the IPU to the crash web site. Steinman has named these scientists as follows:

Dr., Lloyd Berkner, Dr. Detlev Bronk, Dr. Carl A. Heiland, Dr. Jerome Hunsaker, Dr. John von Neumann, Dr. Robert J. Oppenheimer, Dr. Merle A. Tuve, Dr. Horace B. van Vandenberg.

4 of those scientists, will probably be famous, have been members of the unique MJ-12 panel arrange in September 1947. Dr. Carl A. Heiland was a geophysicist and magnetic sciences knowledgeable who was the top of the Colorado Faculty of Mines, and based on Steinman leaked particulars of the restoration to one in all Scully’s sources, Leo GeBauer. Dr. Horace B. van Vandenberg was an inorganic chemist related to the College of Colorado. Dr. Merle A. Tuve labored for the Workplace of Scientific Analysis and Growth throughout World Struggle II, and is mainly remembered as a geophysicist for his strategies of radio wave propagation of the higher ambiance. Dr. Robert J. Oppenheimer distinguished himself primarily as chief of the Los Alamos atomic bomb undertaking , commanding the allegiance of the world’s high physicists. He was the Director of the Institute of Superior Research at Princeton from 1947 and have become Chairman of the Common Advisory Committee of the Atomic Vitality Fee. Dr. John von Neumann, the well-known Hungarian born mathematician, turned a guide on the atomic bomb (Manhatten Challenge) in 1943. His fundamental space of experience lay within the design and improvement of computer systems. The scientists, based on Steinman, have been informed by Dr. Bush to assemble at Durango Airfield, Colorado, 35 miles to the north of Aztec, with the minimal delay. All these concerned within the restoration have been sworn to an above high secret oath.

The IPU convoy used a path to the positioning that averted fundamental roads, and on arrival street blocks have been arrange at strategic factors inside two miles of the restoration space. The proprietor of a ranch and his household have been allegedly held incommunicado and informed by no means to debate the matter (cf. the Roswell incident). Gear hauling vans have been camouflaged to seem like oil drilling rigs in the course of the operation.

Contained in the Craft

A workforce of scientists arrived on the web site somewhat later than the IPU workforce and started dissecting the disk. Based on Steinman, they entered the craft one after the other, entry having been gained through a fractured porthole as described in Scully’s account. The portholes themselves appeared metallic and solely appeared translucent on shut inspection. Contained in the craft they discovered two humanoids, about two toes in top, slumped over an instrument panel charred deep brown. One other 12 our bodies lay sprawled on the ground in chamber throughout the cabin, making a complete of 14 our bodies (not 16 as Scully had been informed).

An instrument panel supposedly had a number of pushbuttons and levers with hieroglyphic-type symbols, in addition to symbols illuminated on small show screens. Bush and von Neumann found that the management panel had drawers which rolled out, however no wiring could possibly be detected. A ebook composed of parchment-like leaves with the feel of plastic additionally contained the unusual hieroglyphs – much like Sanskrit, Oppenheimer thought. This was given to Common Marshall, who then handed it on to 2 main cryptological specialists for evaluation, William F. Friedman and Lambros C. Callihamos (who each later led distinguished careers within the Nationwide Safety Company).

Dr. Bronk, a physiologist and biophysicist, examined the our bodies and requested Bush to pay money for cryogenic tools with which to protect them. Cryogenics specialist Dr. Paul A. Scherer, a colleague of Bush’s, was contacted and suggested Bush to acquire some dry ice. In the meantime, one other small group of scientists and navy personnel examined the craft and have been ultimately capable of dismantle it when a number of interlocking key gadgets have been discovered which opened up seams at particular factors.

Three days later the segments have been loaded onto three vans, along with the our bodies, and transported with a tarpaulin marked “Explosives”. The convoy headed at evening by the least conspicuous and sometimes most laborious path to the restricted Naval Auxiliary Airfield Advanced at Los Alamos, arriving one week later. Right here they remained for over a yr, Steinman claims, earlier than being transported to a different base.

The Our bodies

Dr. Paul A. Scherer ultimately obtained particular preservation containers for the least broken our bodies, Steinman relates. One of many firms which equipped tools was the Air Analysis Company, of which Scherer was Director of Analysis and Growth; it equipped the liquid nitrogen pump, circulation system and refrigeration items. Different specimens got an entire post-mortem, by a workforce headed by Dr. Bronk, of biophysicists, histochemists and pathologists. The outcomes have been put in a report, a part of which, Steinman claims, appeared within the “Air Power Challenge Signal (Grudge) Report No. 13” which has by no means been launched.

Based on the report, the our bodies have been described as averaging 42 inches in size. The facial options strongly resembled “mongoloid Orientals” in look, with disproportionately massive heads, massive “slant” eyes, small noses and mouths. The common weight was about 40 kilos. The torsos have been very small and skinny, with very skinny necks. The arms have been lengthy and slender, reaching the knees, with fingers containing lengthy and slender fingers with webbing between them. There was no digestive or gastrointestinal tract, no alimentary or intestinal canal, and no rectal level. No reproductive organs have been obvious. As an alternative of blood there was a colorless liquid with no purple cells which smelled much like ozone.

Additional Proof UFO

Veteran researcher Leonard Stringfield, a former Air Power intelligence officer who’s the world’s main specialist on what he calls “Retrievals of the Third Variety,” shares my misgivings about among the materials in Steinman’s ebook, however we’re each impressed along with his intensive analysis into the Aztec case. Stringfield has uncovered additional proof himself. Captain V. A. Postlethwait, who was on indifferent service with Military G-2 (Intelligence) in 1948, informed Stringfield that he was cleared to see a high secret cable describing the crash of a saucer-shaped craft 100 toes in diameter and 30 toes excessive, with one porthole damaged, inflicting suffocation to the 5 occupants – who had turned blue because of this. The our bodies have been about 4 toes tall with comparatively massive heads, Postlethwait recollects. The metallic pores and skin of the saucer was too robust to penetrate, though as skinny as newspaper. The incident was stated to have occurred close to White Sands, New Mexico. Apart from just a few discrepancies there are some important parallels with the Aztec case. Postlethwait revealed to Stringfield, for instance, that non-public property was bought to facilitate transporting the craft.

Leonard Stringfield has additionally spoken with Dr. Robert Spencer Carr, a retired College of South Florida professor who claims to have testimonial proof from 5 sources, together with a nurse and a high-ranking Air Power officer who participated within the restoration of a crashed UFO and occupants in 1948 – presumed to be the one at Aztec (though there was one other alleged restoration that yr, simply throughout the Mexican border close to Laredo, Texas). In 1982 Stringfield requested Carr to reveal the identify of his principal supply, “on the premise that our ages give us little time tolerance in our seek for reality.”

“When Professor Carr named his supply,” says Stringfield, “I sat again dumbfounded. I knew his identify nicely in analysis, and recalled a few of his feedback on UFOs whereas he served as an Air Power officer. . . . “Please, Len,” pleaded Carr, “hold the identify to your self; please spare me any hassle so long as I reside . . . My key witness participated within the 1948 retrieval and noticed alien our bodies on location.”

Based on Invoice Steinman, two of Carr’s sources have been aeronautical engineers who supplied vital data relating to the saucer’s development and propulsion. A supply now named is Arthur Bray (to not be confused with the Canadian researcher), a safety guard concerned with the restoration undertaking. Carr additionally interviewed a girl whose father was current in the course of the restoration. Data pertaining to the alien craft should be suppressed, he informed his daughter. “If information of this car’s water-driven engine received out to the entire scientific group, that might be the top of the oil trade.” The remark is after all pure rumour, but when there may be any reality in it an extra potential cause for the cover-up is dropped at gentle.

On the nonetheless fenced-off crash web site on a plateau twelve miles northeast of Aztec, Invoice Steinman has uncovered charred and scraped-off rocks of assorted sizes in addition to some steel bracing struts that may probably have been used for supporting the craft. On one in all his visits to the realm he was shadowed by two unmarked helicopters.

As for George Bowra’s declare that nobody in Aztec, might recall the incident, Steinman has traced not less than 4 individuals who knew the place the crash web site was situated, one in all whom, “V.A.,” remembers that someday between 1948 and 1950 an enormous disk-shaped flying object with a dome on high skimmed about 100 toes above the bottom not removed from him. The witness identified to Steinman a cliff jutting above the Animas River.

“That factor, or flying saucer, tried arduous to clear that cliff, nevertheless it hit the very nook up there, taking pictures sparks and rocks in each path,” he claims. “Lastly, it made a right-angle flip in midair and headed straight north within the path of the alleged crash web site at Hart Canyon. That’s the final I noticed of it. I bumped into the home and known as the navy in Albuquerque. I by no means heard from them about it.”

Steinman first turned all in favour of UFOs in 1981 when he learn Frank Scully’s ebook, and has since devoted a lot of his time and assets on the Aztec case and the opposite recoveries related to Scully’s claims, typically within the face of discouraging odds. Steinman’s job in high quality assurance and evaluation within the aerospace trade has aided him in probing the complicated and complex leads that he has pursued.

Writing within the foreword to Steinman’s ebook, UFO Crash at Aztec, Leonard Stringfield explains how, like many others, he was led to consider the Scully story was a hoax, his disbelief lengthy being conditioned by a succession of ufologists who for years claimed that Scully “was duped by a scheming Silas Newton and his cohort, Leo Gebauer.” However now, due to Invoice Steinman’s painstaking analysis (in addition to a few of his personal leads), he has been obliged to reevaluate the proof.

Roswell, New Mexico UFO Incident Crash and Restoration of July 3, 1947

Supply: Roswell On-line
Transient overview article on the Roswell incident, from Roswell On-line

In early July 1947 an incident occurred within the desert simply exterior of Roswell, NM. Many individuals have heard of the Roswell UFO crash, however only a few folks know the main points of the incident. The next account of the 1947 UFO incident was taken from public data, from data supplied by the Worldwide UFO Museum and from the press launch for UFO Encounter 1997.

On the night of July 3, 1947 Dan Wilmot, a revered enterprise proprietor, and his spouse have been sitting on their entrance porch once they noticed a vibrant saucer formed object with glowing lights shifting throughout they sky at 400-500 miles per hour. Dan Wilmot estimated that the flying saucers was about 20-25 toes throughout. The flying object appeared from the Southeast and disappeared to the Northwest. Dan Wilmot reported his uncommon sighting to the Roswell Each day File.

In early July W.W. (Mac) Brazel, the Foreman of the J. B. Foster Ranch rode out to examine his sheep after an evening of intense thunderstorms. Mac Brazel found a considerable amount of uncommon particles scattered throughout one of many ranch’s pastures. Mac Brazel took some items of the particles, confirmed them to some mates and neighbors and ultimately contacted Chaves County Sheriff George Wilcox. Suspecting that the supplies described by Mac Brazel may be related with navy operations, Sheriff Wilcox notified authorities on the Roswell Military Air Subject (subsequently renamed Walker AFB) for help within the matter.


Main Jesse Marcel, the Intelligence Officer on the 509th Bomb Group, was concerned within the restoration of the wreckage which was initially transported to Roswell Military Air Subject. On July eighth the Roswell Each day File’s headline story revealed that the wreckage of a flying saucer had been recovered from a ranch within the space. When questioned Main Jesse Marcel disclosed that the wreckage had been flown from New Mexico on to greater headquarters.

Colonel William Blanchard, Commander of the 509th Bomb Group, issued a press launch stating that the wreckage of a crashed disk had been recovered. A second press launch was issued from the workplace of Common Roger Ramey, Commander of the Eighth Air Power at Ft. Value Military Air Subject in Ft. Value, Texas inside hours of the primary press launch. The second press launch rescinded the primary press launch and claimed that officers of the 509th Bomb Group had incorrectly recognized a climate balloon and its radar reflector as a crashed disk.

The Ballard Funeral Residence in Roswell had a contract to supply ambulance and mortuary companies for Roswell Military Air Subject. Glenn Dennis, a younger Mortician who labored for Ballard Funeral Houses, acquired a number of cellphone calls from the Mortuary Officer on the air area previous to studying of the restoration of the wreckage. Glenn Dennis was requested in regards to the availability of small hermetically sealed caskets and for his suggestions on the preservation of our bodies that had been uncovered to the weather for a number of days. His curiosity aroused, Glenn Dennis visited the Base Hospital that night and was forcibly escorted from the constructing. This habits solely incited Glenn Dennis’ curiosity and he organized to satisfy a nurse from the Base Hospital on the next day in a espresso home. The nurse had been in attendance throughout autopsies carried out on “… a number of small non-human our bodies …”. Glenn Dennis saved drawings of aliens that the nurse had sketched on a serviette throughout their assembly. This assembly was to be their final and Glenn Dennis might study no extra in regards to the alien our bodies, because the nurse was abruptly transferred to England throughout the subsequent few days.


On July ninth the Roswell Each day File revealed that the wreckage had been discovered on the J.B. Foster Ranch. Mac Brazel was so harassed that he turned sorry he had ever reported his discover to the Chaves County Sheriff.

Within the following days nearly each witness to the crash wreckage and the next restoration efforts was both abruptly transferred or appeared to vanish from the face of the earth. This led to suspicions that a unprecedented occasion was the topic of a deliberate authorities coverup. Through the years books, interviews and articles from numerous navy personnel, who had been concerned with the incident, have added to the suspicions of a deliberate coverup.

In 1979 Jesse Marcel was interviewed relating to his position within the restoration of the wreckage. Jesse Marcel acknowledged, “… it will not burn … that stuff weighs nothing, it’s so skinny, it isn’t any thicker than the tinfoil in a pack of cigarettes. It wouldn’t bend. We even tried making a dent in it with a 16 pound sledge hammer. And there was nonetheless no dent in it.” Officers who had been stationed at Wright Subject in Dayton, Ohio (the place the wreckage was taken) on the time of the incident have supported Jesse Marcel’s claims.

Dr. Jesse Marcel, Jr., eleven years previous on the time of the incident, accompanied his Dad in the course of the retrieval efforts. Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. has produced detailed drawings of hieroglyphic like symbols that he noticed on the floor of among the wreckage. Dr Marcel testifies frequently on his perception that a UFO of some kind crashed in Roswell.

The ‘Alien Post-mortem’ Movie, Socorro, NM 1947 UFO Crash

Supply: Michael Hesemann, Nexus Journal, 1996
From ‘Alien Post-mortem Replace’, by Philip Mantle
September 22, 2001

In 1995 London primarily based businessman Ray Santilli prompted what has been arguably the largest controversy in your complete historical past of UFO analysis when he launched his ‘Alien Post-mortem’ movie throughout the entrance pages of magazines and through the TV display in over 20 completely different nations. By far the most well-liked TV documentary made on the time was the Fox Community’s ‘Alien Post-mortem – Truth or Fiction?’ which has typically been repeated on quite a few cable and satellite tv for pc stations.


For individuals who are unaware of this controversial movie, a short recap may be so as. London video producer Ray Santilli claimed that in l992 he was in Cleveland, Ohio within the USA searching for classic movie clips of rock-n-roll performers from the l950’s. Individuals like Elvis Presley and Pat Boone have been on the high of his checklist. Santilli claimed that he met an aged gentleman from who he bought a uncommon clip of the late Elvis reside on stage. The aged chap had filmed the piece himself whereas working as a contract cameraman in l950’s. Shortly earlier than returning dwelling Santilli was contacted by this aged cameraman once more who this time had one thing completely different to supply. The story he informed was that previous to being a contract cameraman he was a cameraman with the US Military and in l947 he had been flown to Roswell, New Mexico on a particular task. Initially he was knowledgeable that he was to movie the crash of a Soviet spy airplane however on arrival it turned clear that this was no Russian airplane. As an alternative he claimed to have filmed the UFO crash at Roswell in l947 and never solely that, however the precise post-mortem of two of the useless aliens.

Fairly naturally Santilli was greater than and at a later date he visited the cameraman at his dwelling to view this different footage. To his amazement it did certainly seem to point out the post-mortem of an alien. Santilli instantly agreed to purchase the movie for money, the one different situation being that he was by no means to disclose the establish of the cameraman himself. Santilli, not having the amount of cash concerned, reported to be round $150,000, however by no means confirmed, ultimately turned to his German enterprise companion Volker Spielberg for help. Over the following couple of years Santilli bought the movie and transported it to the UK the place it was transferred to video. In l993 Santilli contacted myself to see if I would be capable of help within the making of a UFO documentary. Finally he informed me of the movie he had bought and his plans to commercialise it. It was not till early l995 that I first noticed any of the movie. My spouse Sue and I visited Santilli’s workplaces in London on a number of events to view the movie. On the time I used to be the convention organiser for the British UFO Analysis Affiliation (BUFORA) and already had a convention deliberate for August l995. I requested Santilli if he would present the movie on the convention and he agreed to take action.

Within the meantime, after a non-public screening organised by Santilli in London to an invited viewers solely, he set about promoting the rights to the movie to all kinds of publishers and TV firms around the globe. First to publish stills from the movie was VSD in France and shortly copies have been flying around the globe through the web. The day after our convention in August l995 noticed the movie broadcast on TV around the globe. And the remainder, they are saying, is historical past.


From: The Alien Post-mortem Movie: Details vs Armchair Analysis
Michael Hesemann, Nexus Journal, Quantity 3, #6 (Oct-Nov ’96)


A couple of yr and a half in the past, on fifth Could 1995, the London-based movie producer Ray Santilli for the primary time offered his alleged alien post-mortem footage to an viewers of invited media representatives and UFO researchers on the London Museum. Even earlier than that date, a really emotional debate had already began. Offended ufologists had challenged Santilli to close up or work along with them, whereas others had claimed from the very starting that the movie is a hoax simply because it doesn’t match into their idea of what occurred in New Mexico in the summertime of 1947.

Santilli’s advertising and marketing coverage, his business exploitation of the movie, his ignorance within the UFO area and his violation of all of the unwritten protocols of the UFO group didn’t discover many mates amongst ufologists, and fairly quickly many screamed “Hoax!” with out with the ability to show something. One researcher even concluded, “There isn’t any [16 mm] movie and no cameraman”, after quoting web page after web page of all of the rumours, second- and third-hand data and inconsistencies amongst Santilli’s claims (or alleged claims), to show that he was proper from the very starting when he suspected a rip-off, as a result of the being on the post-mortem desk appeared “too humanoid to be an extraterrestrial”, but ignoring that that is precisely how most eyewitnesses describe crashed ufonauts.1

Sadly, those that looked for the reality, wherever it may be, have been few in quantity. Keen to hearken to Santilli first, earlier than they judged and checked out the knowledge they may get earlier than asking for extra, have been primarily Philip Mantle (UK), Bob Shell (USA) and Michael Hesemann (Germany)-the Worldwide Analysis Staff (IRT)-joined by Maurizio Baiata and Roberto Pinotti (Italy), Johannes Baron of Buttlar (Germany), Odd-Gunnar Roed (Norway), Hanspeter Wachter (Switzerland), Col. Colman VonKeviczky, Dr Bruce Maccabee, Joe Stefula, Lt. Col. W. C. Stevens, Ted Loman, Robert Morning Sky, Llewellyan Wykel and Dennis Murphy (USA), and others.

Let me level out that we discovered Ray Santilli at all times very pleasant, useful and cooperative though generally restricted in his actions by agreements along with his enterprise companions and the cameraman. I ponder if any ‘main worldwide media company’ would ever have been even almost as open to any affordable analysis strategy as Mr Santilli certainly was. The next is a abstract of outcomes from the IRT’s first yr of investigation.


Sure, there’s a cameraman. We situated folks, in addition to Santilli, who had spoken to him over the cellphone: Gary Shoefield of Polygram, Philip Mantle, John Purdie of Channel 4 (UK) and the secretary of David Roehring of Fox Community, USA. He’s American, an previous man, and lives in Florida. He was in hospital when Gary Shoefield needed to satisfy him, and was coughing when Philip Mantle had him on the cellphone. Based on his story he had polio as a toddler.2 Polio victims at the moment largely walked with a limp. He couldn’t have had a foul hand, in any other case he couldn’t have labored as a cameraman, however possibly he had a foul leg. The motion of the cameraman within the movie signifies this, since he doesn’t transfer easily. Bob Shell enquired amongst senior US navy cameramen if they may bear in mind a colleague from the 1940s with a foul leg. They knew one. His identify is Jack “X”, and he’s precisely the age claimed for the Santilli cameraman: eighty-six.3

The cameraman just isn’t Jack Barnett-a identify used initially by Santilli to guard the id of the true cameraman. Jack Barnett labored for Common Information, filmed Elvis Presley at a high-school live performance in 1955 and died in 1969. Jack X didn’t work for Common, however filmed Elvis at one other live performance, an open-air one, when the Common cameramen have been on strike.Four The cameraman agreed to be interviewed by a serious US TV community.5

In April 1996 Bob Shell was contacted by the US Air Power following an enquiry from President Clinton’s scientific adviser, Dr John Gibbons. The USAF Captain informed Shell that they’d situated footage from the identical inventory of their archives and verified that not less than a part of the Santilli materials is real, and reveals no dummy and no human. They knew the cameraman’s name-Jack X-but requested Shell to ahead an tackle, because the navy data constructing in St Louis had had a fireplace and plenty of data had been misplaced. A search could be time-consuming and costly.6

After we requested for particulars in regards to the crash web site, we turned satisfied that the cameraman certainly has a wonderful information of the realm in query. With Ray Santilli because the intermediary-and Santilli didn’t know something in regards to the space in query and insisted on calling Socorro “Sorocco”-he even described a ruined bridge that we might find solely on our third go to to the realm. He knew precisely what he was speaking about.

Though some have criticised the cameraman’s approach within the post-mortem movie, different navy cameraman assume that is precisely the best way they, too, would have filmed it.

“The cameraman retains shifting to get out of the best way of the surgeon and retains making an attempt to get the very best perspective. The job of a military cameraman is to document a process on movie, to not ship stunning photos. And that, right here, is an satisfactory filmic protocol,” stated Dr Roderick Ryan, US Navy cameraman in the course of the ’40s and ’50s who filmed many secret authorities initiatives together with the atomic checks on Bikini Atoll.7

“Amongst these circumstances, nobody might have made a greater job…he was not solely a well-educated and skilled film man, however, moreover, in full information of enhancing and manufacturing of documentaries. Proof: filming the post-mortem actions from numerous view angles,” stated Col. Colman VonKeviczky, who studied on the UFA Movie Academy in Berlin Babelsberg, was head of the audiovisual division of the Royal Hungarian Common Workers, cameraman and director of the third US Military at Heidelberg and member of the audiovisual division of the United Nations in New York.8


Cautious research of stills made out of the unique movie and high-quality Betacam copies confirmed that the movie was certainly shot on 16-mm materials. The digital camera dealing with seen on the post-mortem movie signifies using a small, light-weight digital camera with fastened lenses (due to this fact, the out-of-focus close-ups), just like the 16-mm Bell & Howell Filmo Digital camera utilized by US navy cameramen within the ’40s-the digital camera the cameraman claims he used.9

Leaders of 16 mm movie have been despatched to Kodak Hollywood, London and Copenhagen and turned out to bear the symbols (a sq. and a triangle) utilized by Kodak both in 1947 or in 1967.10

Two segments with three frames every, one clearly displaying the post-mortem room, got to Bob Shell, editor of Shutterbug journal and in addition a phototechnical guide for the FBI and the US courts. After a cautious bodily evaluation, Shell confirmed the segments to be pre-1956 16-mm movie. In 1956 Kodak modified its film-base from acetate-propionate to triacetate, and the samples have been clearly on acetate-propionate movie. The movie kind was Tremendous XX-Panchromatic Security Movie, a high-speed movie used for indoor filming however which had a life-span of not more than two years, when cosmic radiation would trigger a ‘fogging’ of the fabric. Shell is bound the movie was uncovered and developed inside two years. This, not less than, dates the movie as pre-1958.11


Every thing within the movie dates to the time in query. The phone is an AT& mannequin from 1946,12 and spiral cables had been non-compulsory since 1938 and customary for US Military telephones.13 The wall clock is a mannequin in the marketplace since 1938,14 and the microphone is a 1946 Sheer Bros mike.15 The desk with the devices was customary tools for a pathologist, as confirmed by Prof. Cyril Wecht, ex-President of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences.16 The bone hammer was common; nor was the Bunsen burner which, in autopsies, served the aim of burning away physique fats.


The corpse on the post-mortem desk has been the topic of many disputes as as to if it’s a dummy, a woman with a genetic dysfunction or, certainly, an alien. Practically all particular results (FX) specialists concluded that it’s actually potential to faux footage of a realistic-looking post-mortem. There have been many considerations about ‘snuff’ motion pictures and the origin of the corpses utilized in them. South America had been named as a potential origin, however stories from there have indicated using very sensible dummies. Nonetheless, nobody has discovered any proof of particular results getting used on this post-mortem film-although right now, unquestionably, almost all the pieces will be faked with the newest state-of-the-art FX strategies.17

However, pathologists and physicians from all around the world who noticed the movie have been fairly positive the physique was not a dummy, however really a corpse-human or humanoid.

It’s indeniable that among the traits of various genetic issues will be discovered within the being on the post-mortem table-mostly issues corresponding to Turner’s syndrome or progeria, mixed with polydactylism (which isn’t a typical factor of Turner’s syndrome, though potential together with it) and different anomalies. This prompted a German dermatologist, Dr T. Jansen of the Policlinic of the College of Munich, to publish a research in a medical journal, making an attempt to show that the physique is that of a woman who died from a uncommon type of progeria.18 However, he forgot to clarify why there could possibly be two ladies with an identical signs together with polydactylism, when progeria is so uncommon that there are solely 20 circumstances worldwide. Sadly, the one case of Turner’s syndrome twins, though clearly documented on movie, was by no means printed within the medical literature.

Certainly, Dr Jansen’s ‘findings’ don’t clarify the acute precautions taken when the post-mortem was carried out, i.e., why would the workforce have worn bio-hazard safety fits if the physique had a genetic dysfunction, and why would the being have been fitted with black eye-lenses? Though Dr Jansen recognized a stroke (widespread for progeria sufferers) as the reason for dying, this doesn’t clarify the broken proper leg, the damaged and swollen left leg, the cut-off proper hand and a bruise on the left temple with a potential bullet wound. Ought to we assume that our creature broke its legs, reduce its proper hand and shot a bullet in its head earlier than it died from a stroke?

Greater than that, Jansen’s clarification for the lacking navel couldn’t persuade us, both. To cite Dr Jansen, “It’s like for those who put up an umbrella: the unevenness disappears.”19

However, fairly numerous pathologists concluded that the being was not human in any respect, since its internal organs have been like nothing they’d ever seen:

Prof. Christopher Milroy, Residence Workplace Pathologist, College of Sheffield, UK: “Though a close-up of the mind was proven, it was once more out of focus. Nonetheless, the looks was not that of a human mind.”20

Prof. Mihatsch, College of Basle, Switzerland: “As for the organs eliminated, they may not be tallied with any human organs.”21

Prof. Cyril Wecht, Ex-President, American Academy of Forensic Sciences, USA: “I can’t place these constructions in an stomach context… I discover it troublesome to herald any reference to the human physique as I do know it. The construction that should be the mind, if it have been a human being, doesn’t seem like a mind…it doesn’t appear to be a human being.”22

Dr Carsten Nygren, Oslo, Norway: “This isn’t a human mind. It’s…a lot too darkish.”23

Prof. Pierluigi Baima Bollone, College of Turin, Italy: “After we take a look at the internal organs of the physique we discover no single organ that in any method resembles any human organ. The primary organ, which could possibly be the liver, has neither the form nor the situation of a human liver. The face of the alleged extraterrestrial reveals stunning anatomical options: very huge ocular orbits, a really flat nasal pyramid, a mouth in some way broad open…however, the face is flat, there isn’t any proof of facial musculature which is current in human beings and is chargeable for the big number of facial expressions of the human species… My total impression is that we’re coping with a creature that appears to belong to our species however is so clearly completely different from us that it appears absurd to invest in regards to the similarity.”24

There was not a single doctor or pathologist who, after watching the total movie, concluded it was a hoax or that the being on the desk was a dummy. All of them agreed the corpse was of a dwelling, organic entity-human or not.


Based on the cameraman the post-mortem was carried out by “Dr Bronk” and “Dr Williams”.

Prof. Dr Detlev Bronk (1897-1975) was no shock, since his identify already appeared within the controversial “Majestic 12” paperwork. He was Chairman of the Nationwide Analysis Council, America’s main biophysicist and a member of the Advisory Committee of the Military, Air Power and of the Atomic Vitality Fee-certainly an individual to whom the supervision of an post-mortem of this relevance might have been entrusted. After his dying, all his papers and paperwork have been preserved on the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Analysis, of which he was President from 1953.25

Dr Bronk was a really methodical particular person, saved detailed diaries and all his correspondence, notes and dates. However when Bob Shell needed to look via his papers and diaries for 1947, he learnt that, mysteriously sufficient, that is the one yr for which all of the data are lacking. Not one of the pleasant librarians might inform him what had occurred to them or why they’re nonetheless lacking.26

Dr Williams may need been Dr Robert Parvin Williams (1891-1967), who was Particular Assistant to the Surgeon Common of the Military at Fort Monroe, Virginia. He was a Lt. Col. in 1947 and was promoted to Brig. Common in 1949.27 Alone, the naming of Dr Williams-who was the fitting man in the fitting place for the task-indicates the cameraman had some inside information.


Based on the cameraman, 4 dwelling aliens have been discovered on the crash web site. One didn’t survive the restoration operation, the second and third died about 4 weeks later, and the fourth survived till Could 1949.
We have no idea something in regards to the post-mortem of the primary creature, and it’d very nicely have been that it was subjected to a ‘huge’ scientific post-mortem.

The cameraman filmed the second and third autopsies on 1st and third July 1947, when the primary concern may need been to seek out out the reason for their sudden deaths so as to discover a option to hold alien no. Four alive-unless they may set up communication and discover out why these guests had come to Earth. This was absolutely of a better curiosity for the nationwide defence forces than a scientific research of an alien life-form. However, we assume that organs have been taken for additional research in the course of the dissection.

Moreover, based on the cameraman, the fourth alien was autopsied scientifically in a medical theatre in Washington, DC, within the presence of main scientists from the US, England and France.34


Ray Santilli’s declare that the movie was “the Roswell footage” prompted loads of controversy, since not one of the witnesses to the July 1947 UFO crash/retrieval occasion had confirmed both the our bodies or the particles. Certainly, the corpses present in Roswell have been smaller, extra slender, and had 4 or 5 fingers, based on eyewitnesses.51 None ever talked about six fingers. In any case, if the movie have been a faux, why did these chargeable for it not care to learn not less than one of many many books on this topic or see the superb TV mini-series, Roswell, by Paul Davies, as proven on Showtime?

The very first data I received from Santilli in regards to the supply of the movie made me surprise if it really had something to do with Roswell in any respect. Ray already insisted on fifth Could 1995 that the autopsies had been filmed on 1st and 2nd July 1947, and that the restoration had taken place “at first of June”-one month too early for Roswell.

Once I went to Roswell on 30th June 1995 to confront the eyewitnesses (together with Robert Shirkey, Glenn Dennis and Frank Kaufmann) with the just-released stills from the movie, I requested Santilli for particulars in regards to the crash web site. He might solely inform me it was “about four-and-a-half hours away”, “near White Sands check web site” and “an Apache reservation”, and “on the northern shore of a small dry lake on the finish of a small canyon”. I requested him to name the cameraman to acquire extra detailed directions, which, certainly, he did. He stated the crash web site was “between Socorro” (Ray stated “Sorocco”) “and Magdalena”.

By the top of July 1995, Santilli launched the total story of the cameraman who confirmed he had learnt of the crash on 1st June 1947-which dates the occasion again to the late hours of 31st Could 1947. Date, location and all the pieces we see on the movie didn’t match with Roswell. Conclusion: it was a unique occasion.

The truth that the cameraman had been flown into Roswell and dropped at the crash web site by automotive, prompted him to consider he’d been concerned in “the Roswell incident” that he’d heard about-and Santilli believed him.


Whereas no person has been capable of current any proof that the Santilli post-mortem footage was faked, we’ve got some convincing indications that the movie may very nicely be real. If it’s a hoax, it’s undoubtedly essentially the most ingenious faux of the century.

As an alternative of continuous the polemic of the final yr or so, severe UFO researchers ought to proceed to judge the proof and seek for the reality, in what may become essentially the most provocative proof but that we aren’t alone within the Universe.


New Mexico UFO Crash Encounter In August 16, 1945

Supply: Ben Moffett, The Mountain Mail, Socorro NM, Nov. 2, 2003
New Mexico UFO Crash Encounter In 1945
By Ben Moffett, ©. 2003 The Mountain Mail – Socorro, NM, 11-2-3

Half 1

Simply earlier than daybreak on July 16, 1945, scientists detonated the world’s first atomic bomb at Trinity Web site, some 20 miles southeast of San Antonio, N.M. Three weeks later, on August 6 and 9, the USA introduced World Struggle II to a dramatic finish by utilizing the bomb to destroy the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

On August 6, the world first discovered that the Trinity occasion, which had frightened San Antonioans witless, was not “an ammunition journal containing excessive explosives and pyrotechnics” because the navy had reported. It was an atomic bomb, “dying, the destroyer of worlds,” within the phrases of undertaking physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer.

It was on this crucible of suspicion and disinterest bred by familiarity that a small contingent of the U.S. Military handed nearly unnoticed via San Antonio in mid-to-late August, 1945 on a secret task.

Little or nothing has been printed in regards to the mission, shrouded within the “hush-hush” ambiance of the time. However the navy element apparently got here from White Sands Proving Grounds to the east the place the bomb was exploded. It was a restoration operation destined for the mesquite and greasewood desert west of Outdated US-85, at what’s now Milepost 139, the San Antonio exit of Interstate 25.

Over the course of a number of days, troopers in Military fatigues loaded the shattered stays of a flying equipment onto an enormous flatbed truck and hauled it away.

That such an operation occurred between about Aug. 20 and Aug. 25, 1945, there isn’t any doubt, insist two former San Antonioans, Remigio Baca and Jose Padilla, eyewitnesses to the occasion.

Padilla, then age 9, and Baca, 7, secretly watched a lot of the troopers’ restoration work from a close-by ridge. Their eager curiosity stemmed from being the primary to achieve the crash web site.

What they noticed was an extended, broad gash within the earth, with a manufactured object mendacity cockeyed and partially buried on the finish of it, surrounding by a big area of particles. They believed then, and consider right now, that the item was occupied by distinctly non-human life kinds which have been alive and shifting about on their arrival minutes after the crash.

They reported their findings to Jose’s father, Faustino Padilla, on whose ranch the craft had crashed. Shortly thereafter, Faustino acquired a navy customer asking for permission to take away it.

Throughout their college years, Jose and Remegio, finest mates, would generally whisper in regards to the occasions of that August, which occurred earlier than any of the opposite mysterious UFO incidents in New Mexico, however they didn’t speak to others about it on the recommendation of their mother and father and a state policeman good friend.

The importance of what they noticed, nonetheless, grew of their eyes over time as tales of UFOs and alien craft multiplied throughout the nation, particularly in a ban throughout central New Mexico.

Among the many most distinguished was Socorro police officer Lonnie Zamora’s April 24, 1964 on-duty report of a “manned” UFO simply south of Socorro, lower than 10 miles north of the heretofore unnoticed 1945 Padilla Ranch crash.

Jose and Remigio have been lengthy gone from the realm by the point UFOs and alien craft turned information, and though each saved up with Socorro County occasions, they misplaced contact and by no means mentioned the rising phenomenon with one another.

Reme moved to Tacoma, Wash., whereas nonetheless in highschool and Jose to Rowland Heights, Calif. Then, two years in the past, after greater than 4 a long time aside, they met by probability on the Web whereas monitoring their ancestry. It was then their curiosity in essentially the most intriguing occasion of their childhood was rekindled.



Throughout one of many conversations, Remegio and Jose determined to inform their story to veteran information reporter Ben Moffett, a classmate at San Antonio Grade Faculty who they knew shared their understanding of the tradition and atmosphere of San Antonio within the forties and fifties, and who was aware of the terrain, place names, and folks. That is their story as informed to Moffett.


SAN ANTONIO, N.M. — The pungent however pleasing aroma of greasewood was within the air as Jose Padilla, age 9, and good friend, Remigio Baca, 7, set out on horseback one August morning in 1945 to discover a cow that had wandered off to calf.

The scent of the greasewood, extra typically known as creosote bush right now, caught their consideration as they moved away from this tiny settlement on their horses, Bolé and Dusty. The creosote scent is clear solely when it’s moist, and its presence on the wind meant rain someplace close by.

So, as they labored the attracts on the Padilla Ranch, they have been aware of flash flooding which could happen in Walnut Creek, or aspect arroyos, if there have been a serious thunderstorm upstream. Gully-washers will not be unusual in late summer time within the northern stretches of the Chihuahuan Desert of central New Mexico, particularly alongside the foothills of the Magdalena Mountains looming to the west.
Regardless of minor perils related to being away from adults, it was a routine outing for Jose and Reme. It was not odd to see children roam far afield doing chores in the course of the battle years. “I might trip earlier than I might stroll,” stated Jose in a latest interview. “We have been anticipated to do our share of the work. Looking down a cow for my dad wasn’t a foul job, even within the August warmth.”

At size, they moved into terrain that appeared too tough for the horses hooves, and Jose determined to tether them, minus bridles, permitting them to graze. He had noticed a mesquite thicket, a possible place for a wayward cow to offer start, they usually set off throughout a area of jagged rocks and cholla cactus to have a look. As they moved alongside, grumbling in regards to the thorns, the constructing thunderheads determined to let go. They took refuge below a ledge above the floodplain, protected considerably from the lightning strikes that instantly peppered the realm.

The storm rapidly handed and as they once more moved out, one other sensible gentle, accompanying by a crunching sound shook the bottom round them. It was by no means like thunder. One other experiment at White Sands? No, it appeared too shut. “We thought it got here from the following canyon, adjoining to Walnut Creek, and as we moved in that path, we hear a cow in a clump of mesquites,” stated Reme. Positive sufficient, it was the Padilla cow, licking a white face calf.

A fast examine revealed the calf to be wholesome and nursing, and the boys determined to reward themselves with a small lunch Jose had sacked, a tortilla every, washed down with just a few swigs from a canteen, and an apple.

As they munched, Jose seen smoke coming from a draw adjoining to Walnut Creek, a fundamental tributary from the mountains to the Rio Grande.

Ignoring their activity at hand, the 2 boys headed towards it, and what they noticed as they topped an increase “stopped us useless in our tracks,” Reme remembers. “There was a gouge within the earth so long as a soccer area, and a round object on the finish of it.” It was “barely seen,” he stated, via a area of smoke. “It was the colour of the previous pot my mom was at all times making an attempt to shine up, a boring metallic colour.”

They moved nearer and located the warmth from the wreckage and burning greasewood to be intense. “You possibly can really feel it via the soles of your sneakers,” stated Reme. “It was nonetheless humid from the rain, stifling, and it was arduous to get shut.”

They retreated briefly to speak issues over, cool off, sip from the canteen and acquire their nerve, frightened there may be casualties within the wreckage.

Then they headed again towards the positioning. That’s when issues actually received eerie. Ready for the warmth to decrease, they started inspecting the remnants on the periphery of an enormous litter area. Reme picked up a chunk of skinny, shiny materials that he says reminded him of “the tin foil within the previous olive inexperienced Phillip Morris cigarette packs.”

“It was folded up and lodged beneath a rock, apparently pinned there in the course of the collision,” stated Reme. “Once I freed it, it unfolded all by itself. I refolded it, and it unfold itself out once more.” Reme put it in his pocket.

Lastly they have been capable of work their option to inside yards of the wreckage, fearing the worst and never fairly prepared for it. “I had my hand over my face, peeking via my fingers,” Reme recalled. “Jose, being older, appeared to have the ability to deal with it higher.”

As they approached they noticed, thought they noticed, sure, undoubtedly DID see motion in the primary a part of the craft.

“Unusual trying creatures have been shifting round inside,” stated Reme. “They appeared below stress. They moved quick, as in the event that they have been capable of will themselves from one place to a different instantly. They have been shadowy and expressionless, however undoubtedly dwelling beings.”

Reme needed no a part of whoever, no matter was inside. “Jose wasn’t afraid of a lot, however I informed him we should always get out of there. I bear in mind we felt concern for the creatures. They appeared like us-children, not harmful. However we have been scared and exhausted. In addition to it was getting late.”

The boys backtracked, ignoring the cow and calf. It was somewhat after nightfall once they climbed on their horses, and darkish once they reached the Padilla dwelling.

Faustino Padilla requested in regards to the cow, and received a fast report. “And we discovered one thing else,” Jose stated, and the story poured out, rapidly and nearly incoherently. “It’s sort of arduous to clarify, nevertheless it was lengthy and spherical, and there was an enormous gouge within the dust and there have been these hombrecitos (little guys).”

Their story unfolded as Jose’s father listened patiently. “They have been working backwards and forwards, trying determined. They have been like youngsters. They didn’t have hair,” Jose stated

“We’ll test it out in a day or two,” Faustino stated, unalarmed and apparently not frightened within the least about survivors or medical emergencies. “It should be one thing the navy misplaced and we shouldn’t disturb it. Depart your horse right here, Reme, and Jose and I’ll drive you dwelling, because it’s so late.”

Two days later at about midday, state policeman Eddie Apodaca, a household good friend who had been summons by Faustino, arrived on the Padilla dwelling. Jose and Reme directed Apodoca and Jose’s dad towards the crash web site in two automobiles, a pick-up and a state police automotive. Once they might drive no additional, they parked and hiked to the hillside the place the boys had initially noticed the wreckage.

As they topped the ridge, they famous the cow and calf had moved on, most likely headed for dwelling pasture, then they walked the quick distance to the overlook. For a second time, Jose and Reme are dumbfounded.

The wreckage was nowhere to be seen.

“What might have occurred to it?” Reme requested.

“Any person will need to have taken it,” Jose responded defensively.

Apodoca and Faustino stared intently however unaccusingly at Jose and Reme, making an attempt to know. They headed down the canyon nonetheless, and instantly, “as if by magic,” in Reme’s phrases, the item reappeared.

“From the highest of the hill, it blended into the environment,” Reme defined lately. “The solar was at a unique angle, and the item had dust and particles over it,” which he speculated could have been put there by somebody after the crash.

Apodoca and Faustino led the best way to the craft, then climbed inside whereas Jose and Reme have been ordered to remain a brief distance away. “I can’t see the hombrecitos,” Reme provided.

“No,” replies Jose. “However take a look at these marks on the bottom, like whenever you drag a rake over it.”
“The large area of litter had been cleaned up,” Reme recalled. “Who did it, and when, I do not know. Was it the navy? Utilizing a helicopter? Or the occupants?”

The primary physique of the craft, nonetheless, remained in place with odd items dangling in all places.

Now it was time for the adults to lecture Reme and Jose, Reme remembers. “Pay attention rigorously. Don’t inform anybody about this,” Reme quoted Faustino as saying. “Reme, your dad simply began working for the federal government. He doesn’t must know something about it. It’d trigger him hassle.”

Faustino additionally labored for the federal government at Bosque del Apache Nationwide Wildlife Refuge and the ranch itself was on leased federal land. Faustino was a patriotic man and sincere to a fault in his coping with the federal authorities, based on Jose.

“The federal government calls them climate balloons,” the state policeman chipped in. “I’m right here to assist Faustino work out the restoration with the federal government. They’ll need this factor again.”

“However this isn’t just like the climate balloons we’ve seen earlier than,” stated Reme. “They have been little, nearly like a kite.”

“You’re proper, Reme. Este es un monstruso, que no Eddie?” Faustino stated.

“Yeah, it’s huge for positive,” the state policeman acknowledged.

“And the hombrecitos?” Reme endured.

“Possibly you simply thought you noticed them,” stated Faustino. “Or possibly any person took them, or they only took off.”

Then they headed dwelling. The cow and calf additionally grazed their method again in a day or two.

Subsequent week: The story continues with the navy’s removing of the wreckage, whereas Jose and Reme, geared up with binoculars, spy on their each transfer, together with the troopers slipping off to the Owl Bar for somewhat diversion.

Jose and Reme additionally look again on the incident from the angle of time. Was the item that required a flatbed truck and an “L” extension a climate balloon, or an alien craft from house or from one other dimension?

The 2 males, now of their mid to late 60s, nonetheless have a chunk of the craft and know the place different elements have been buried by the navy.

Reme additionally speculates about how the 1945 incident matches in with the numerous sightings that have been later reported in a ban throughout central New Mexico and elsewhere, giving rise to a UFO and “flying saucer” phenomenon that’s nonetheless debated right now.


The Truth About UFOs Half 2

In mid August, 1945, earlier than the time period “flying saucer” was coined, Remigio Baca, age 7, and Jose Padilla, 9, have been first on the scene of the crash of an odd object on the Padilla Ranch west of San Antonio, a tiny village on the Rio Grande in central New Mexico.

Each Remigio, or “Reme” as his mates known as him, and Jose, consider they noticed “shadowy, childlike creatures” within the demolished, rectangular, round craft once they arrived on the scene, nicely earlier than anybody else.

The U.S. Military informed the general public nothing about it, and informed the Padilla household it was a “climate balloon,” based on Reme and Jose, now of their mid 60s. And the 2 males insist the Military went to nice lengths to maintain the operation below wraps, even concocting a canopy story to masks their mop-up mission on the ranch.

The restoration operation really began two days after Reme, Jose, Jose’s father, Faustino, and state policeman Eddie Apodaca, a household good friend, visited the positioning on August 18, 1945. It was then that a Latino sergeant named Avila arrived on the Padilla dwelling in San Antonito, a tiny southern extension of San Antonio.

After some small speak, Sgt. Avila received right down to enterprise. Based on Reme’s and Jose’s recollection, and what they discovered subsequently from Faustino, the dialog went one thing like this:

“As chances are you’ll know, there’s a climate balloon down in your property,” Avila stated. “We have to set up a steel gate and grade a street to the positioning to get better it. We’ll must tear down part of the fence adjoining the cattle guard.”

“Why can’t you simply undergo the gate like all people else?” requested Faustino.

“Properly, the issue is that your cattle guard is about 10 toes broad, and our tractor trailer can’t start to get via there,” stated the sergeant. “We’ll compensate you, after all.”

The sergeant additionally requested for a key to the gate till the navy might set up its personal. He additionally needed assist with safety. “Are you able to be sure no person goes to the positioning except they’re approved. And don’t inform anybody why we’re right here.”

“What ought to I inform them?” Faustino requested.

“You possibly can inform them the tools is right here as a result of the federal government must work a manganese mine west of right here,” the sergeant stated.

“That was to justify the presence of road-building tools,” stated Reme in a latest interview. “It wasn’t till a long time later, on the Web, that I discovered the Military informed loads of fibs alongside about that point. I discovered one other manganese mine story was used to cowl a UFO incident on the west aspect of the Magdalenas close to Datil in 1947, in regards to the time of the Roswell UFO incident.”

“I do know for positive that the duvet story was not less than the second piece of misinformation they gave out in a month,” famous Reme, a former Marine, chuckling and referencing the acknowledged false press launch used to cowl the Trinity atom bomb explosion as the primary.

It wasn’t lengthy after the sergeant’s departure that the Military was on the scene with street constructing tools. Lengthy earlier than the street was graded, nonetheless, troopers have been on the web site, carrying scraps of the mangled airship to smaller automobiles that have been capable of instantly get near the scene.

Though they have been warned by their father to steer clear of the realm, Jose, generally with Reme, and sharing a pair of binoculars, watched from hiding because the navy graded a street and troopers ready for the flatbed’s arrival. Jose really made off with a chunk, which continues to be of their possession.

“The work element wasn’t too environment friendly,” stated Reme, who famous from his expertise within the Marines that navy elements had numbers and have been rigorously catalogued. “The troopers threw among the items down a crevice, so that they wouldn’t have to hold them,” he stated. “Then they’d kick dust and rocks and brush over them to cowl them up.”

Based on Jose, 4 troopers have been stationed on the wreckage always, with shift adjustments each 12 hours. “One stayed at a tent as a guard and listened to the radio. I might hear the music. They’d work for an hour after which lock the gate, climb of their pick-ups and go to the Owl Café, the place they’d search for ladies. I do know as a result of one in all my (feminine) cousins who was there informed me.”

As soon as the flatbed was in place, the troopers used wenches to hoist the intact portion of the wreckage in place. “They needed to construct an L-shaped body and tilt it to get it to suit into the tractor-trailer, as a result of it bulged out over one aspect,” Jose stated. “They lastly reduce a gap within the fence on the gate that was 26 toes lengthy to get it out.”

Off it went, shrouded below tarps, via San Antonio and presumably to Stallion Web site on what’s right now White Sands Missile Vary, the place, based on Reme, it nonetheless could also be right now.


Was this clandestine operation undertaken to get better a climate balloon? Or, as Jose and Reme contend, was it one thing way more mysterious?

“I feel the time period ‘climate balloon’ was a euphemism, a catch-all for something and all the pieces that the federal government couldn’t clarify, stated, Reme.

Reme and Jose knew about typical navy climate balloons. “My father and I discovered about seven of them earlier than and after the 1945 crash,” Jose remembers. “We at all times gathered them up and gave them again to the navy. They have been nothing however silky materials, aluminum and wooden, nothing like what we present in that arroyo in 1945.”

“These climate balloons weren’t far more than huge field kites,” stated Reme. “They positive couldn’t gouge a gap within the floor. Bear in mind, in 1945, regardless of the bomb, we weren’t all that refined. The Trinity Web site bomb, Fats Man, was transported on a railroad automotive to the positioning. Radar was primitive or non-existent in some locations. Possibly the navy knew what they’d, possibly they didn’t, possibly they couldn’t say.”

Reme and Jose are satisfied, they usually say Faustino quickly got here to hitch of their perception, that the item on the ranch was no mere climate balloon, however an object of thriller. Faustino, nonetheless, had no real interest in difficult the established order, nor did state policeman Apodaca, no matter his beliefs have been.

And why would a mere sergeant be despatched to barter with Faustino Padilla on a mission that concerned one thing greater than a routine climate balloon flight. “He wore sergeant stripes,” Reme stated. “That doesn’t essentially imply he was a sergeant. And he was Latino. He was despatched to San Antonio as a result of he might talk with the locals.”

Lastly, why would the navy enable such cavalier therapy of the wreckage, if it have been a overseas or alien craft with scientific worth?

“I don’t know in the event that they knew what they’d,” Reme stated. “It was a reasonably crude craft with no elements numbers on it, and the piece we’ve got, we have been informed just isn’t remarkably machined even for 1945. However there’s nothing that claims aliens must journey in outstanding spaceships.

“Given what we find out about distances within the universe, house journey appears far-fetched, I’ll grant you. Maybe they received right here by some methodology we will’t fathom they usually manufactured a crude object right here to get round on this ambiance. We hear about different dimensions, and parallel universes.

“I don’t know a lot about these issues. However I do know what I noticed, which was some unlikely trying creatures on the crash web site. I do know that later different folks within the space reported comparable issues. And I do know the federal government was all in favour of preserving it quiet.”

Reme has studied the UFO phenomenon in his spare time through the years, particularly because it pertained to New Mexico. “The navy opened the door at Roswell, after which they closed it,” he stated, referring to a July, 1947 report by the Roswell Air Power Base data workplace in regards to the crash and restoration of a “flying disc” that they reported had been bouncing across the sky. Then the bottom retreated by reporting it was merely a “radar monitoring balloon” that had been recovered.

Particulars of the Roswell occasion will be present in a 19-page Freedom of Data Act request by the late New Mexico Congressman Steve Schiff and launched by the Common Accounting Workplace July 28, 1995. It may be discovered on the Web at http://www.conspire.com/ds/gao2.html).

The Roswell crash, which together with the sighting of a UFO south of Socorro by metropolis policeman Lonnie Zamora in 1964, are the 2 most well-known of a string of UFO stories over central New Mexico and in all of UFO lore.

From 1946 via 1949, 25 UFO sightings that “could have contained extra-terrestrial life” have been reported worldwide by the Heart for the Research of Additional-Terrestrial Intelligence. Of these, seven got here from New Mexico, together with one close to Magdalena (1946), Socorro (1947), Roswell (really close to Corona), July 4, 1947, Plains of San Agustin (Catron County), July 5, 1947, Aztec, 1948, White Sands, 1949 and Roswell once more, 1949. One other was within the sample, too, on the Hopi Reservation of Arizona in 1947.

“There was a sample of sightings and incidents in a ban throughout New Mexico. Socorro and San Antonio are proper on the heart,” notes Reme. “Our 1945 sighting simply provides to that base of data. It’s intriguing to say the least. For those who have been an eyewitness it turns into much more intriguing.”

Reme and Jose are excited sufficient to inform their story after greater than 55 years, even understanding the issues that plagued Lonnie Zamora after his recognizing a UFO close to Socorro, lower than 10 miles away, in 1964.

Jose and Reme wish to see an excavation of the crevice the place just a few odds and ends from their “alien craft” have been tossed. The crevice was lately coated up by a bulldozer doing flood management work.

They usually’d prefer to have the half they’ve from the wreckage examined extra carefully. They aren’t desperate to give up it to anybody, nonetheless. “I’ve heard from others that for those who give it as much as the federal government, you stand a superb probability of not getting it again,” Reme stated.

A second piece, which Reme likened to the “tin foil in a cigarette pack,” is gone. “I used it to cease a leak in a brass pipe below a windmill at our home in San Antonio within the early 50s,” he stated. “I used it to fill the stripped threads on two items of pipe.”

Reme stated he regrets utilizing it now, nevertheless it was useful. “I saved in for years in an previous Prince Albert (tobacco) can within the pump home, and it was the closest factor out there.” Reme stated the foil stopped the leak within the pipe for years. The windmill is now gone and the property is not owned by the household.

Lastly, Jose and Reme have been requested why they determined to inform the story right now, after almost 60 years.

“It’s one thing you possibly can by no means get out of your head,” stated Reme. “After we noticed it, we had by no means heard the time period UFO, and ‘alien craft’ didn’t turn out to be part of the language till June of 1947 when a pilot named Kenneth Arnold reported 9 objects in a formation within the space of Mount Rainier.

“We didn’t invent this phenomenon,” stated Reme. “We skilled it. Others have apparently had comparable experiences. I consider Jose and I’ve an obligation so as to add our data to the combo.”



Remigio Baca of Gig, Harbor, Wash., was born in San Antonio in October,1938, to Evarista Serna and Alejandro Baca. He attended San Antonio Grade Faculty and Socorro Excessive till he transferred to Stadium Excessive in Tacoma, Wash., in his freshman yr.

Reme served within the Marines for six years in the course of the Vietnam Struggle, labored as a tax compliance officer for the Washington Division of Income, and was concerned in Washington politics. A gathering with Vernon Jordan, nationwide chairman of the City League, inspired him to get into politics, which he did with enthusiasm.

Reme was instrumental within the election of the well-known scientist and Nixon administration politician Dixy Ray Lee to the governorship of Washington as a Democrat, and served on Ray’s government employees.

In that position, he helped get certified Latinos in administrative positions in authorities. When Lee was defeated, Reme turned an insurance coverage agent in Tacoma, moved to California for awhile as an unbiased insurance coverage dealer in Oxnard, Santa Paula and Santa Barbara, and retired in Gig Harbor, a suburb of Tacoma.

He has been married for years to Virginia Tonan, a classical pianist and trainer.

He has been again to San Antonio many occasions, and has family in Socorro County.

Jose Padilla was born in San Antonito in November, 1936, to Faustino and Maria Padilla, attended first San Antonito Grade Faculty after which San Antonio Grade Faculty when San Antonito’s college burned down. He additionally attended the Luis Lopez Grade Faculty for a time. He made first communion with Reme Baca on the San Antonio Church.

Whereas at Socorro Excessive he left to hitch the Nationwide Guard at age 13, when very younger youngsters have been allowed to enroll due to the World Struggle II dying toll within the New Mexico Guard. After leaving San Antonio, Jose continued guard obligation in Van Nuyes Calif., Air Nationwide Guard, and when the unit was activated, hung out in Korea.

He married his spouse, Olga, and served with the California Freeway Patrol for 32 years as a security inspector. The Padillas have three boys, together with a son, Sam, who lives in Contreras, close to La Joya, and he has quite a few family in Socorro and neighborhood.

(Rense.com Editor’s observe: Due to the Mountain Mail for permitting us to run this piece by Ben Moffett. The newspaper, which covers Socorro and Catron County in rural New Mexico, is quickly gaining a status as a “excellent news” newspaper with sturdy editorial pages which come from each the left and the fitting, progressive items on such regionally controversial topics as rooster combating, homosexual rights, and, sure, UFOs, and such regionally vital ones as birding, farming and ranching.)


UFO Crash and Retrieval in Missouri, 1941

Supply: Excerpt from UFO Casebook (BJ Sales space)
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[excerpt from article by BJ Booth]

Some of the mysterious tales of a crashed UFO with alien our bodies preceded the nicely know Roswell occasions by some six years. This case was first dropped at investigators by Leo Stringfield in his ebook “UFO Crash / Retrievals: The Interior Sanctum.” He opened a tantalizing account of a navy managed UFO crash retrieval which continues to be being researched right now. The small print of the case have been despatched to him in a letter from one Charlette Mann, who associated her minister-grandfather’s deathbed confession of being summoned to wish over alien crash victims exterior of Cape Girardeau, Missouri within the spring of 1941. Reverend William Huffman had been an evangelist for a few years, however had taken the resident minister reigns of the Crimson Star Baptist Church in early 1941. Church data corroborate his employment there in the course of the interval in query.

After receiving this name to obligation, he was instantly pushed the 10-15 mile journey to some woods exterior of city. Upon arriving on the scene of the crash, he noticed policemen, hearth division personnel, FBI brokers, and photographers already mulling via the wreckage. He was quickly requested to wish over three useless our bodies. As he started to soak up the exercise across the space, his curiosity was first struck by the sight of the craft itself.

Anticipating a small airplane of some kind, he was shocked to see that the craft was disc-shaped, and upon trying inside he noticed hieroglyphic-like symbols, indecipherable to him. He then was proven the three victims, not human as anticipated, however small alien our bodies with massive eyes, hardly a mouth or ears, and hairless. Instantly after performing his duties, he was sworn to secrecy by navy personnel who had taken cost of the crash space. He witnessed these warnings being given to others on the scene additionally.

As he arrived again at his dwelling at 1530 Predominant Road, he was nonetheless in a state of gentle shock, and couldn’t hold his story from his spouse Floy, and his sons. This late evening household dialogue would spawn the story that Charlette Mann would hear from her grandmother in 1984, as she lay dying of most cancers at Charlette’s dwelling whereas present process radiation remedy. Charlette was informed the story over the span of a number of days, and though Charlette had heard bits and items of this story earlier than, she now demanded the total particulars.

As her grandmother tolerated her previous few days on this Earth, Charlette knew it was now or by no means to seek out out all the pieces she might earlier than this intriguing story was misplaced with the dying of her grandmother. She additionally discovered that one of many members of her grandfather’s congregation, considered Garland D. Fronabarger, had given him taken on the evening of the crash. This image was of one of many useless aliens being assist up by two males.

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